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        <title>Re: Associations</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi!...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:46:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 23, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alberto Gimeno Brieba</jf:author>
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        <title>Associations</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[How are associations handled with siena? I can add fields which correspond to the fk, but how are the objects then loaded (and stored in corresponding transient fields)? ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:43:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:43:36 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dominik Gruntz</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have made some changes and I have removed totally the need of extending the Model class. There is a new release available to <a href="http://code.google.com/p/siena/downloads/list">download</a> and I have updated a section of the <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:25:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:25:15 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alberto Gimeno Brieba</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: It doesn't implement JPA</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Siena doesn't implement JPA. The API has been designed without following any standard. It is inspired on the Google App Engine Python Datastore API.</blockquote>
Thanks God. I still need to understand the need to use that awfully lame API.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:58:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:58:00 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alessandro Santini</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Well, actually Model.insert() is just a shortcut method to the configured PersistenceManager insert() method, so I could remove the inheritance requirement but I don't see what are those issues of using inheritance.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:50:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, actually Model.insert() is just a shortcut method to the configured PersistenceManager insert() method, so I could remove the inheritance requirement but I don't see what are those issues of using inheritance.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:46:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:46:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alberto Gimeno Brieba</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Why don't user inheritance? It is basic OO design. You can't make a custom insert() method, but it really matters?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:26:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: It doesn't implement JPA</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Siena doesn't have to implement JPA. DataNucleus for Google App Engine (GAE) Datastore use JPA, but as you see the feature would be non-standard too....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:10:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nuruddin Ashr</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Andy!...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:36:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alberto Gimeno Brieba</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[So if I want a class to be usable by this software I have to tie it to your classes, and can't have a method on my class called "insert()" for example, and various other methods ? Seems a bit intrusive IMHO, not able to just provide a POJO and persist...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:26:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>^C^ ^C^</jf:author>
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        <title>It doesn't implement JPA</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Siena doesn't implement JPA. The API has been designed without following any standard. It is inspired on the Google App Engine Python Datastore API.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:19:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alberto Gimeno Brieba</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA compliant</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Nice work. love to try it out.<br>Only I would rather see it implement the jpa spec then this custom standard.<br><br>m2c</blockquote>
Well, a custom standard is an oxymoron.

Guido]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:17:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:17:04 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guido Anzuoni</jf:author>
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        <title>JPA compliant</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Nice work. love to try it out.
Only I would rather see it implement the jpa spec then this custom standard.

m2c]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:14:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:14:55 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Marc de Kwant</jf:author>
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        <title>Siena: the scalable persistence tier for Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57885</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Siena is a persitence API for Java inspired on the Google App Engine Python Datastore API. This is an example of usage:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:33:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alberto Gimeno Brieba</jf:author>
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