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        <title>SAP Asks Sun/Oracle to Let Java Be Free</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Where I work all our platforms and tools (there are many) support Java. .NET isn't even an option.<br/><br/>IMHO, the language you choose in the future will not be bound to the underlying VM. The native language of that VM will only be as good as how...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:43:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 28, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>yuregininsesi</jf:author>
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        <title>Speaking of positions</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>SAP should shut up since they have most proprietor software in IT. One should look into their own turf before asking arch competitor to give something for FREE to them or community (oh which community in particular mention it...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:36:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 26, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>PANAYOT DOBRIKOV</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Open source without stewardship is the end</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Personally, I think Java should stagnate.  There are diminishing returns for new features.</blockquote><br>Stable == dead. It's that simple.<br><br>There's no diminishing returns from the features which are being added to C#, more...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:30:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:30:23 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 26, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Barry van Someren</jf:author>
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        <title>I wish Java can offers more to compete upcomming .NET release</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree with you, Alex....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:56:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:56:44 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Billy Sanarwanto</jf:author>
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        <title>Didn't understand</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Is SAP asking to change GPL style license of Open JDK, or just change JCP members?
Should someone else be able to commercialise JDK (MSFT like companies) paving way to backfiring on opensource?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:04:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 19, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hari sujathan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Open source without stewardship is the end</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>There's literally no advantage of starting a project in Java vs. C# right now, except for cross-platform requirements.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:50:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Open source without stewardship is the end</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Personally, I think Java should stagnate.  There are diminishing returns for new features.</blockquote><br>Stable == dead. It's that simple.<br><br>There's no diminishing returns from the features which are being added to C#, more...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:42:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Open source without stewardship is the end</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Personally, I think Java should stagnate.  There are diminishing returns for new features.</blockquote><br>Stable == dead.</blockquote>C would like a word with you.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:34:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bostjan Dolenc</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Open source without stewardship is the end</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Alex,<br><br>You are of course entitled to your opinions. As I see it however, I think some stability is essential for something as pervasive, foundational, well-supported and standards based as Java....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:07:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex Besogonov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Open source without stewardship is the end</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Personally, I think Java should stagnate.  There are diminishing returns for new features.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:57:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex Besogonov</jf:author>
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        <title>Any SAP role as a Euro player?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The only obstacle of late to the Oracle-Sun merger seems to come from Europe. If a big "European" company were satisfied with the deal, [mmm, like SAP] would that have any influence on that outcome? ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:39:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jvaughan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Do ASF, Eclipse Foundation, etc. do a bad job?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Java is the root from which springs the different branches of derivative open source technologies....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:51:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Douglas Allen</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Do ASF, Eclipse Foundation, etc. do a bad job?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><b>Backward compatibility is a superpower</b> when you deal with a 15-years old de facto industry standard. <br><br>....<br><br>Java will be perfectly safe in the open source simply because the industry depends on it.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:16:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jess Holle</jf:author>
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        <title>Do ASF, Eclipse Foundation, etc. do a bad job?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Disclosure: I work for a <a href="http://www.excelsior-usa.com/jet.html">compliant Java SE JVM</a> vendor genuinely interested in obtaining Java <b>and</b> JCK under a business-friendly open source license....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:32:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dmitry Leskov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SAP Asks Sun/Oracle to Let Java Be Free</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58464</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I blogged my take on this at <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://debupanda.com" target="_newWindow">http://debupanda.com</a>

-Debu]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:52:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 18, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Debu Panda</jf:author>
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