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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>One big worry is how other big Java supporters like IBM, HP, etc. going to work with Oracle which is an interesting factor to watch in coming months.<br><br>Long live Java.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:59:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 3, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Daswani</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well Java can be at its best if Oracle can handle it properly with its deep experience in IT and Java itself. All we have to wait and watch the first few months of aquisition then can get some idea of where its going to head....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:23:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mohamed Salihu Mansoor</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: I like the JCP</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>There should be no closed mail lists for expert group discussions.  All interactions from expert groups should be public.</blockquote>
There will always be politics and off-list communication...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:41:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nicklas Karlsson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[@Sigmund Lundgren: A good language is not per definition one with the most buzz word like enhancements. Use a sublanguage like groovy for this. You can use all the scriptlike stuff and still code java and run in the jvm. Personally, I think there is no...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:16:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sigmund Lundgren</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> .....I hope sun dies a quick death algont with JCP ...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:04:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christopher Schmidt</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[@pagux pagux: Tomcat runs on a SUN spec (servlet API).Spring uses the Java language :) etc... I hope you get the picture, but I would suggest for once try the JEE 5 stack and u will be surprised to little code is required to build a crud app, or...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:56:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Marc de Kwant</jf:author>
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        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[JCP is big pain in the ass ...Sun microsystem is sinking ship ......all that crap thats come out of JCP  is useless anyway ...too complex and too impractical ...EJB , jsf ...look around do actually use SUN /JCP stuff ...i use spring , gwt , tomcat , fmee...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:30:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>pagux pagux</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree, languages do need a strong lead to canalize change requests from the community. But this lead must allow changes. I first heard from Java in 1995 these are 15 years. If I look at the language itself, not so much has changed (the most important...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:51:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christopher Schmidt</jf:author>
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        <title>Sun's license is best</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58629</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[apache license allows anyone to modify and redistribute buggy code. Sun has some test compatibilty kit. 
A check as to whether original scriptures have been modified/tampered with before being sold is cool.

-Hari]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:59:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hari sujathan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: why are being opensource and having good leadership in anyway re</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>why are being opensource and having good leadership in anyway related?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:49:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jess Holle</jf:author>
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        <title>I like the JCP</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I like the jCP structure, but it does need to change.  ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:44:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Hmm</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>why are being opensource and having good leadership in anyway related?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:55:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nicklas Karlsson</jf:author>
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        <title>why are being opensource and having good leadership in anyway re</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Java will die a death of Creeping Featuritis if there is no entity with the bigger picture. Especially for core stuff that can't be moduled out...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:25:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Thompson</jf:author>
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        <title>Control is needed</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Java will die a death of Creeping Featuritis if there is no entity with the bigger picture. Especially for core stuff that can't be moduled out...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:18:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nicklas Karlsson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: New Article: Developers Split on Open Sourcing Java</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I think it would be good if Oracle would continue the JCP as it is and improve on it. The JCP is actually a quite fast process and generally produces good specifications. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:56:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Brakkee</jf:author>
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