Support Forums: Message List - Five Myths About Older Developers http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 03:34:44 -0400 Are the Myths True? Yes and No http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:35:52 -0400 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:35:52 -0400 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:35:52 -0400 Mar 31, 2010 Tracy Nelson 0 Re: Same here (nontech mgr? gimme a break!) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546
Nontechnical 'managers' are the absolute worst disaster, and the unfortunate trend towards them are part of what is wrong with software today.

The MBA myth that management is...]]> Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:37:19 -0400 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:37:19 -0400 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:37:19 -0400 Mar 30, 2010 emvee 0 less capable of learning new technologies because of their legacy http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 It's other way around. I mean yes you can program in FORTRAN on any language, but folks who do it would screw if they start from Java just as easily. Legacy knowledge...]]> Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:12:59 -0400 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:12:59 -0400 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:12:59 -0400 Mar 22, 2010 Sergey Pomytkin 0 Re: XML Hell http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546
I hate to tell you, but any technology can be misused. Just become some developers, both young and old potentially misused Spring doesn't condemn the technology.

I don't agree with your assessment. Every bean *YOU*...]]> Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:40:33 -0500 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:40:33 -0500 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:40:33 -0500 Mar 11, 2010 David McCoy 0 Re: Old vs young attitudes to technologies http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546
How some people could withstand the stench of EJB1&2 or Spring XML hell amuses me.


In a few years, we might be amused by how some people could withstand the stench of annotation hell :-)

Hey, sounds...]]> Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:58:52 -0500 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:58:52 -0500 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:58:52 -0500 Mar 7, 2010 Karl Banke 0 Re: XML Hell http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 I hate to tell you, but any technology can be misused. Just become some developers, both young and old potentially misused Spring doesn't condemn the technology.

I don't agree with your assessment. Every bean *YOU* implement caused...]]> Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:47:24 -0500 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:47:24 -0500 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:47:24 -0500 Mar 7, 2010 Karl Banke 1 Age is not an issue http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:04:13 -0500 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:04:13 -0500 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:04:13 -0500 Mar 7, 2010 ErnaniGaspar 0 What is critical is the person, not his age http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:13:58 -0500 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:13:58 -0500 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:13:58 -0500 Mar 6, 2010 Joubin Houshyar 0 Re: XML Hell http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546
Some of us had no issues with this aspect of Spring. It is 2010. Let it go.


Yet there are some lessons to learn here which is where "the older developer" comes in. Any new technology will be marketed as the...]]> Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:06:26 -0500 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:06:26 -0500 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:06:26 -0500 Mar 5, 2010 David McCoy 2 This is engineering, not football http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:06:50 -0500 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:06:50 -0500 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:06:50 -0500 Mar 5, 2010 Robert Reiter 0 Re: XML Hell http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 Some of us had no issues with this aspect of Spring. It is 2010. Let it go.
...]]> Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:41:01 -0500 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:41:01 -0500 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:41:01 -0500 Mar 5, 2010 Karl Banke 3 Re: XML Hell http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 You know, I must be the only one who missed the fact that XML config files were hell. I have built some really, really big websites using Spring MVC and all that configuration went into a bunch of xml files. I would estimate that the amount...]]> Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:19:08 -0500 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:19:08 -0500 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:19:08 -0500 Mar 4, 2010 David McCoy 4 Re: Long Hours http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546
Only think i could agree with is that younger programmers are more willing to work around the clock that others..but as a PM once told me when i was younger(23) while working 15 hour days like it was cool.... he said...]]> Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:07:43 -0500 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:07:43 -0500 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:07:43 -0500 Mar 4, 2010 David McCoy 0 Re: Great reply http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546
In my view, Java wasn't worth learning prior to the advent of IoC frameworks and the addition of annotations and Java generics.

R. Grimes


While I like those additions as much as you do, I think without...]]> Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Mar 4, 2010 George Jiang 0 Re: Great reply http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59546 In my view, Java wasn't worth learning prior to the advent of IoC frameworks and the addition of annotations and Java generics.

R. Grimes
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