Support Forums: Message List - Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & MVC Free http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 03:21:54 -0400 Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & MVC Free http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 I think the article in question is talking about the MVC pattern that was popularized by Struts, not the desktop MVC pattern from the 80's.

Kind regards, Bob

]]> Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:28:32 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:28:32 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:28:32 -0400 Jun 10, 2010 Bob Schellink 1 Click is page centric http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299

But you cannot say that JSF has some sort of MVC.

Sorry, i meant "But you cannot say that JSF has *not* some sort of MVC"

]]> Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:11:06 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:11:06 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:11:06 -0400 Jun 10, 2010 Antonio Petrelli 0 Click is page centric http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 Probably they used the wrong terms, Click does have some sort of MVC. It is page centric, where the C in MVC is in the page manager class (sorry if I use the wrong terms).

...]]> Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:09:37 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:09:37 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:09:37 -0400 Jun 10, 2010 Antonio Petrelli 1 Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & MVC Free http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 Being the original author of the quoted page I would like to discuss intent behind this piece. The idea was to get people thinking about encapsulation where you can have a reusable control/component which you can drop into a page without having to...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:51:03 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:51:03 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:51:03 -0400 Jun 9, 2010 Malcolm Edgar 0 Re: Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & M http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 Fowler does go on to state that the full separation of concerns is more common in web front-ends than in rich clients.

Personally, I prefer the full split.

]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:21:12 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:21:12 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:21:12 -0400 Jun 9, 2010 Gaute Sanson 0 Re: Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & M http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 ...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:10:37 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:10:37 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:10:37 -0400 Jun 9, 2010 Gaute Sanson 1 Re: Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & M http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 Isn't this an anti pattern? In pretty much any application I've ever been involved in, irrespective of size and technology (web, spring, whatever), separation of concerns is a very desirable thing and combining the controller with the view...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:29:18 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:29:18 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:29:18 -0400 Jun 9, 2010 Marclev 2 Why this New Apache Framework Just Clicks - How to Be JSP & MVC Free http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=60299 Apache Click Project

"Why Click?" Because "click is JSP and MVC Free. This is a good thing!"

While I sure can agree that JSP-free is a good thing I'm...]]> Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:53:05 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:44:27 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:53:05 -0400 Jun 8, 2010 Marco Noname 9