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Gosling Lends

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:15:19 -0400

There have been a lot of brilliant, talented Java engineers contributing to Java standards for years; I believe a large group of them does not sympathize with Oracle's way of doing business which in turn causes them to withdraw their efforts...

Which JSRs are important?

Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:29:51 -0400

Hi Cameron:

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all that talent..

Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:32:06 -0400

well, well, well.. coming from the Smalltalk community back in the 90ies, and looking at the first incarnation of java, we were far from impressed by what we saw. In fact, AWT and the initial collection classes (remember Vector, Enumeration?) gave us...

What about JCP?

Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:41:49 -0400

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What about JCP?

Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:21:35 -0400

What's equally important, but unfortunately not mentioned in this discussion so far, is what impact the acquisition and its consequences have on the JCP. Those who have been members for a while spotted the difference for sure; since the first signals...

auf Englisch bitte

Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:23:53 -0400

"And regarding "losing everyone", I have not lost anyone"

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auf Englisch bitte

Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:38:11 -0400

Sandro,

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re: A different perspective

Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:54:42 -0400

Thanks Cam for your humility. Sadly, Sun was losing money and base. The pain of the acquistion will be eased by the continued viability of Sun hardware and Java, as well as, the emergence of products that leverage the engineering excellence that Sun...

Nice Perspective

Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:37:07 -0400

Thanks for a slightly different perspective from inside Oracle.

vertippt

Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:26:51 -0400

Oh my god ... jetzt habe ich mich auch noch vertippt.

A different perspective

Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:24:59 -0400

you will get there, loosig everyone on the way ... jo, das kann passieren. Das nennt man dann Pech ... oder anders gesagt ... ich sitz in meinem bonker ... nein, nein, cameron, ich kapitutier nicht ...

A different perspective

Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:02:37 -0400

We have definitely lost some great talent since the acquisition, and in some cases it was so obviously avoidable as to be painful to witness. I do wish we could have handled various aspects of this acquisition better; there's really no simpler way to...

Gosling Lends a Compassionate Ear as Oracle Mines the Sun

Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:18:36 -0400

Oracle's fourth quarter profit just jumped 24%.

Indeed, Oracle has posted a nice, healthy profit, and the bean counters are saying that Sun, which was bleeding money at this time last year, actually contributed to the healthy bottom line....