Support Forums: Message List - The Future of Java: forking, death, or stasis? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 23:58:15 -0400 Nice way to generate hits, congrads! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61039 No, I didn't say Java was dead.

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...]]> Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:59:20 -0400 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:59:20 -0400 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:59:20 -0400 Oct 12, 2010 Laszlo Kaszonyi 0 Java Rocks - long live java! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61039 Whileever there is a JDK to download and a JVM for any platform I need to deploy to then I'll be sticking with Java. There is simply no other typesafe, powerful, widely deployed language and environment that can compare - but it's not only that - it's...]]> Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:59:07 -0400 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:59:07 -0400 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:59:07 -0400 Oct 12, 2010 Chris Golfman 0 Hmm.... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61039 This press release has caused a stir in the blogosphere, and seems somewhat relevent to this discussion:

...]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:42:39 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:42:39 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:42:39 -0400 Oct 11, 2010 Robert Dean 0 Freedom http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61039 The idea of Oracle controlling Java in any way or form should make everyone, I mean everyone, abandon the platform. Java's value proposition is quite simple: (1) Cross platform. (2) Owned and controlled by the community. On that note, two logical...]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:09:33 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:09:33 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:09:33 -0400 Oct 11, 2010 McCorney Severin 0 Plus ça change... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61039 Okay, a lot has changed over the last few months, but the arguments are just the same as they've been for the last five years.

...]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:49:18 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:49:18 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:49:18 -0400 Oct 11, 2010 Rhys Parsons 0 Joseph Ottinger is not a programmer- just ignore him http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61039 I personally enjoyed his article, as well as the posts where people exchanged ideas that his article sparked.

In only one post did someone resemble a simple dummy (wait for it...).

Nice article, Joe.

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Why are you wasting your time? Mr. Ottinger is just a simple dummy with no technical background except editing texts. I don't think he is qualified enough to make those claims and judgements, so for me I just ignore him.

Jan

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