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        <title>The Iterative Reference Model: A new approach to OO</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Strange article !...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:20:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik GOLLOT</jf:author>
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        <title>Clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Basically, I explained this in my previous post. I have updated the article with this, because a lot of people ask me this question :-)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:19:17 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gert-Jan Schouten</jf:author>
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        <title>huh?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Just read your article and when I saw the 6 tables that you created out of the model, I had a total "QUE?" experience. Where in the world did these tables come from? Basically it are 3 entities and 3 M-N relationships, AFAIK not what was to be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:00:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Eugelink</jf:author>
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        <title>Clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the opportunity to clarify this!<br/><br/>There are basically two reasons why I use join tables for one-to-many relationships:<br/><br/>1) I don't want to "pollute" domain tables with list indices, as I said in the article<br/>2) Suppose...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:27:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gert-Jan Schouten</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: What new approach?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure i understand the solution. You merely seem to be giving weight to one domain object over another. &nbsp;What if you have a Customer, Account and Order objects and their associations. &nbsp;Which one would you pick to start with?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:26:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sony Mathew</jf:author>
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        <title>New approach?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with other commenters, your "new approach" seems the traditional one to me. It's how the Hibernate docs tell you to model this type of relationships.</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:21:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andres F.</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: What new approach?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Not from what I've seen... But I'm relatively young, so I haven't experienced the really old stuff...</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:24:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gert-Jan Schouten</jf:author>
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        <title>What new approach?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>The 'new' approach you are writing about is the traditional one ;-)</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:04:46 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yannick Majoros</jf:author>
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        <title>Thanks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! There are always upsides and downsides and not all usecases lend themselves for this approach. But I'm glad you liked it!</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:53:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gert-Jan Schouten</jf:author>
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        <title>The Iterative Reference Model: A new approach to OO</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article and I'm glad you took the time to discuss the positives and negatives!!</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:35:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 14, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Martijn Verburg</jf:author>
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        <title>Emergent Design</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>Without having read your article thoroughly, it seems roughly similar to the topic of this book:</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:34:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 13, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>christor</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Wrong Approach</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>To which relations do you refer? There are two one-to-many's: Company -&gt; Contact and Company -&gt; ContactMoment. There's one many-to-many: Contact -&gt; ContactMoment  In the Iterative approach, basically the one-to-many's become many-to-one's,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:52:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 13, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gert-Jan Schouten</jf:author>
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        <title>Wrong approach</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I taken a quick look at your article.</p>
<p>Probably I'm missing something but, in my opinion what you call <strong>traditional</strong> approach is totally wrong: you couldn't model one-to-many relationship in a many-to-many way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:05:57 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 13, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Maurizio Cucchiara</jf:author>
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        <title>The Iterative Reference Model: A new approach to OO</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61483</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Object Oriented Models, even when very loosely coupled and very highly cohesive, can become quite complex over time. Also, when developing applications from scratch, it can be difficult to encapsulate all the requirements of the customer into one...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:53:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 13, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gert-Jan Schouten</jf:author>
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