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        <title>hard to find? hardly</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't think the Head First book would help at all - they won't be able to read that either.</p>
<p>As someone suggested above, they should hand their badge to someone else.</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 04:13:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 25, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henry Dominik</jf:author>
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        <title>Leaving Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I am a passionate developer who discovered Java in college. Back in high-school i code in Pascal or Delph mainly and I tried some other alternatives, C++, C# , PHP and finally Java. For me, Java was a love at first sight, in college I discovered the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 04:09:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 24, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stelian Popa</jf:author>
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        <title>hard to find? hardly</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Amen,&nbsp; brother.</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:19:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 22, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>William Kemp</jf:author>
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        <title>hard to find? hardly</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some one can write a 'Head First' book on downloading, un/installing java!</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:12:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 22, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Saad Khawaja</jf:author>
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        <title>Google could just pay oracle</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, google could just pay oracle a few million and make android the java mobile platform. The argument can go either way.</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:11:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>So what</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely put. Unfortunately, Larry doesn't give a shit. It's just all about the benjamins in short term - buy out every valuable piece of software and then make the suckers pay. Simple as that. I think there's no hope for community-driven java...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:10:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wojciech Kudla</jf:author>
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        <title>hard to find? hardly</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I've noticed a lot of people being unable to do complex tasks in java lately - with such tasks being "uninstall" and "install" and "download." This is NOT a good sign.</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:33:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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        <title>hard to find? hardly</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Really, it takes you a long time to find the download link? I went to <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://java.sun.com" target="_newWindow">http://java.sun.com</a> (or <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://java.oracle.com"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:11:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Stegeman</jf:author>
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        <title>Losing the stream on Java ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I am an hard core Java fan for the several years, one of the best invention by Sun for IT world. But lately I have been so concerned about the future of Java, especially ever since it bought by Oracle and making as Open Source. Earlier when I want to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:20:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Praveen Allam</jf:author>
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        <title>Criticizing Oracle seems to be the latest fashion</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I will keep it short.</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:48:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>kazi abdullah saikat</jf:author>
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        <title>No need to give up at all</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I for one haven't given up on Java. I feel Java is in much better hands now than the final days at Sun. To me a stable and reliable JVM and platform is much more important than tail chasing. I happen to love the diversity of open source, even if it's...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:37:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>Java: Nothing Without the Community</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61543</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>James Sugrue wrote up "<a href="http://java.dzone.com/articles/java-nothing-without-community" target="_blank">Java: Nothing Without the Community</a>" on DZone, basically namechecking Stephen Colebourne's "<a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:37:33 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>RMayhew</jf:author>
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