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        <title>Return of the CASE application generators</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we need a return to the CASE application generators pre java. At the moment I am working with a wonderful example CA Plex that utilises pattern inheritance at an abstract design level with declarative data models which provide the concrete...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Expanded Arguments On Why Java Is A Dead-End For Enterprise App Dev</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>While there is always a feeling that increasing the "expressive power" or level of abstraction of a language or tool will yield massive productivity gains, history has shown that this doesnt happen in &nbsp;reality.</p>...]]></description>
        

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        <title>platform agnostic</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>in deed, java is not perfect, especially to code massively parallel systems...</p>...]]></description>
        

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        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:09:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Expanded Arguments On Why Java Is A Dead-End For Enterprise App Dev</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 10:28:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Use Bugmenot.com for registration = no spam</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61832</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Use www.bugmenot.com to get an existing user/pass so you won't get spam.. enjoy.</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 08:35:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Expanded Arguments On Why Java Is A Dead-End For Enterprise App Dev</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Some have made the point that Mike has not provided an alternative but I don't think he is duty bound to. The industry needs to first accept that the status quo is far from ideal and then let the capitalist system produce challengers that...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Expanded rediculous arguments...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>"A key developer angst is what combination of the many frameworks to use."</p>...]]></description>
        

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        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 04:38:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Registration</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 03:25:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Invalid title of the presentation</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a big misunderstanding. Before the quiestion "Why?" the question "Really is?" must be answered. Mike somehow think the answer for "Really is?" is "yes, of course". But the discussion is mostly about arguing this question ;-)</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 03:18:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[<p>I've read these posts and the TSS blogs. Many posts seem to be from coalface developers. It's disappointing to see such naked aggression but when you confront the status quo and the livelihood of many that is the predictable outcome.</p>...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Throw out your dead</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:14:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Frank Bank</jf:author>
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        <title>tech_er</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=61832</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Why should people get involved in areas where they have no skills for it. It is really beyond my understanding. Also if they are entering in that than gain some knowledge before stating any baseless things.</p>...]]></description>
        

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