Support Forums: Message List - Is Having a Build Specialist an Anti-Pattern? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 22:38:37 -0400 Is Having a Build Specialist an Anti-Pattern? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 Speaking as a "low-life" Build Engineer that currently works designing, developing and maintaining build systems for one of the biggest software firms in the world...I've gotta say, I've never in my history at several compaines met a "developer" who...]]> Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:53:25 -0400 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:53:25 -0400 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:53:25 -0400 Apr 20, 2011 FakeAddress ForSpam 0 This is crazy to me http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 01:03:20 -0400 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 01:03:20 -0400 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 01:03:20 -0400 Apr 16, 2011 Andrew Thompson 0 Having Build Engineers is a Best Practice! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 It is clearly not an anti-patternt. I'm working for a big IT company as a Build Specialist (Build Architect actually). We have a team of build engineers. We have a quite unified idea about how different projects shall be built. This allows us to build...]]> Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:48:46 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:48:46 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:48:46 -0400 Apr 15, 2011 Laszlo Kishalmi 1 Agile/Thoughtworks are an anti-pattern http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 nuff said...

 

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]]> Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:58:18 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:58:18 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:58:18 -0400 Apr 15, 2011 Bill Burke 0 Depends on team and organization size http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 For small project it not reasonable to have a separate SCM person who would support build scripts. Only in the begining you need to put visible effort to setup build scripts, but the support is quite trivial. Most likely dependencies update would be...]]> Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:44 -0400 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:44 -0400 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:44 -0400 Apr 13, 2011 Ruslan Platonovs 0 Is Having a Build Specialist an Anti-Pattern? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 Do you mean Developers are smart and build Engineers are dumb? Streamlining the build process as an art, need to have passion about that work, most developers are not good at it and the excuse they come up is exactly yours. I am a developer but I love...]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:00:30 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:00:30 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:00:30 -0400 Apr 12, 2011 Praveen Allam 0 Is Having a Build Specialist an Anti-Pattern? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 As a developer, I will get bored doing mundane tasks that a build engineer does.

...]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:46:29 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:46:29 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:46:29 -0400 Apr 12, 2011 zqudlyba navis 2 Someone needs to go back and learn Economics 101 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 This bit of foolishness was debunked by Adam Smith when he wrote about specialization in "The Wealth of Nations" back in 1776.  Is having dedicated Systems Admins an anti-pattern?  What about DBAs?  Heck, what about an accountant?...]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:00:37 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:00:37 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:00:37 -0400 Apr 12, 2011 Bruce Fancher 0 It depends... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 I have played the role of "build specialist" in the past, and I think it depends on what is meant on a team by "build specialist." If there is only one person on a team that can touch the build scripts, that can fix the continuous deployment system,...]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:48:47 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:48:47 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:48:47 -0400 Apr 12, 2011 jkingsbery 0 Surely not http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 surely it's a problem if you only have one person that really knows what's going on when the build fails.

]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:20:57 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:20:57 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:20:57 -0400 Apr 12, 2011 Jaap Beetstra 0 Is Having a Build Specialist an Anti-Pattern? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62167 Kief Morris asserts that having a professional on the team dedicated to managing the build process is an anti-pattern. Of course, any investor knows the virtue of a diversified portfolio, and having skills transferred across all members of the team is...]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:38:14 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:38:14 -0400 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:38:14 -0400 Apr 12, 2011 Cameron McKenzie 10