Support Forums: Message List - The Java Community Has a Pathological Desire for Complexity, says Rod Johnson http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 21 May 2013 10:18:49 -0400 Pain http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 Actually, TomEE does exactly that: http://openejb.apache.org/3.0/apache-tomee.html. You can dop in a war to turn Tomcat into a Java EE 6 Web...]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:04:29 -0400 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:04:29 -0400 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:04:29 -0400 Jun 28, 2011 Reza Rahman 0 Pain http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 ...]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:21:24 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:21:24 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:21:24 -0400 Jun 22, 2011 augustientje bloem 0 The Java Community Has a Pathological Desire for Complexity, says Rod Johnson http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 In an interview with TheServerSide.com, the creator of the Spring framework, Rod Johnson, tells interviewer Cameron McKenzie that Java developers have a lot to learn from the Rails community. The response came from a question about what it would...]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:23:26 -0400 Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:37:49 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:23:26 -0400 Jun 22, 2011 Cameron McKenzie 48 Its curious ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 It's curius to hear it from someone who created spring, a framework that takes like zillion configurations to simply run.

]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:04:50 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:04:50 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:04:50 -0400 Jun 22, 2011 Pablo Ilardi 0 Pain http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 ...]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:29:50 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:29:50 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:29:50 -0400 Jun 22, 2011 Grzegorz Grzybek 1 Pain http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 Like Reza mentioned, your situation is indeed painful. It's actually not technical, but political pain you have. You use Spring not as a technical superior solution, but as a way to sneak updates past the absurdity of managers and operations.
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...]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:21:00 -0400 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:21:00 -0400 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:21:00 -0400 Jun 20, 2011 Grzegorz Grzybek 4 My definition of enterprise http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 ...]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:46:55 -0400 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:46:55 -0400 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:46:55 -0400 Jun 19, 2011 Nathaniel Auvil 1 My definition of enterprise http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 ...]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:01:05 -0400 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:01:05 -0400 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:01:05 -0400 Jun 19, 2011 peter lin 2 Standard JEE will own enterprise computing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 ...]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:57:18 -0400 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:57:18 -0400 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:57:18 -0400 Jun 19, 2011 Nathaniel Auvil 3 Java EE is a lot like Rails http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 Java is not open source... Just search for java lawsuit.

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:50:27 -0400 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:50:27 -0400 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:50:27 -0400 Jun 18, 2011 sloppyseconds 0 Java EE is simple http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 ...]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:07:36 -0400 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:07:36 -0400 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:07:36 -0400 Jun 18, 2011 augustientje bloem 0 Java EE is simple http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515

Oracle validates that an implementation conforms to the spec.

so you agree, there is the ultimate Oracle stamp on anything.  Which is what the JCP rule is.

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:40:47 -0400 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:40:47 -0400 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:40:47 -0400 Jun 18, 2011 Nathaniel Auvil 1 The Java Community Has a Pathological Desire for Complexity... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62515 I agree that a lot of the RoR philosophy is gradually finding it's way into Java (because they are good ideas worth adopting).

Also agree on the "cloud mania" point...

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