http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 23:47:24 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 Yes I agree with sound shift. "At most" wouldn't work here as the expression "at most" is usually used to express quantity.-CWD Construction

]]> Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:21:00 -0400 Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:21:00 -0400 Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:21:00 -0400 Jun 22, 2012 kookee01 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 This really sounds interesting regarding the modular development where we can even learned words odf wisdom. 

...]]> Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:19:02 -0400 Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:19:02 -0400 Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:19:02 -0400 Jun 21, 2012 juliestarkey45 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 The OSGi specifications have moved beyond the original focus of service gateways, and are now used in applications ranging from mobile phones to the open source Eclipse IDE. Other application areas include automobiles, industrial automation, building...]]> Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:43:06 -0400 Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:43:06 -0400 Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:43:06 -0400 Jun 5, 2012 kookee01 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 The real question is how we can make sure that Jigsaw does not break OSGi, and that perhaps OSGi can leverage Jigsaw's intrinsic capabilities to simplify the implementation -- if not the surface area -- of OSGi.

...]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:41:37 -0400 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:41:37 -0400 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:41:37 -0400 Jul 29, 2011 Cameron Purdy 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 How do you repeat yourself with the maven bundle plugin? The only additional information is what packages are shared with others, which is not in the scope of maven. And you can even specify this in the POM?

...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:22:36 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:22:36 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:22:36 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Peter Kriens 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 The idea behind OSGi is good: a list based classpath is broken and only a graph based classpath can truly fix it. What makes it confusing is that it mixes 3 concepts in a single manifest.mf text file: package visibility, module dependencies and...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:47:44 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:47:44 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:47:44 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Geoffrey De Smet 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 Peter, it seems you do a lot of OSGi (duh) so do you use Eclipse? If so, do you have lots of plugins that you develop at the same time? And if so, I am curious as to how you manage it. FYI, this goes for anyone. What I mean is.. you should work with...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:15:42 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:15:42 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:15:42 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Mark N 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 ...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:09:04 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:09:04 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:09:04 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Mark N 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 I am not sure this post was related to the article I wrote? However, I am interested in what mandatory metadata you consider unnecessarily complex?

...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 05:20:45 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 05:20:45 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 05:20:45 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Peter Kriens 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 The problem is backward compatibility with existing patterns. Most of these class loading patterns (ServiceLoader, factories, etc.) are not modular and will never be as they violate modular boundaries. JBOss modules is already running in the same...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:03:36 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:03:36 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:03:36 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Peter Kriens 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 In my experience, OSGi is a trainwreck. It's meta-data is complex and there's little that fail-fasts when you configure it wrong. The fact that OSGi resolution is NP-complete is a show stopper for me. JBoss modules looks far simpler to...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:01:44 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:01:44 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:01:44 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Geoffrey De Smet 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 I've been engaged in 277 (though was denied membership in the beginning), 294, 277 resurrection, and now active in Jigsaw. We proposed the Simple Module System as a bridge. All to no avail because there is basically a stone wall on the other side.

...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:49:05 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:49:05 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:49:05 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Peter Kriens 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 When I look into problems with OSGi it is invariably because the code is not modular, it usually loads classes across module boundaries. This might be a common pattern in today's code but it is fact of life that this violates modularity. Jigsaw will...]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:45:49 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:45:49 -0400 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:45:49 -0400 Jul 28, 2011 Peter Kriens 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 My guess would be just another competing model to discuss in the JCP. We'll similarly present our pomegranate modularity ideas: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:08:54 -0400 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:08:54 -0400 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:08:54 -0400 Jul 27, 2011 Reza Rahman 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62699 To be fair, he didn't; the title of the news post did: "failing to comprehend what OSGi..."

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