Support Forums: Message List - Those evil frameworks and their complexity http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 13:02:38 -0400 simple http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 keep it simple and clean

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]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:47:17 -0500 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:47:17 -0500 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:47:17 -0500 Jan 14, 2013 club stork 0 Great http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 Great post, thanks

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]]> Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:35:47 -0400 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:35:47 -0400 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:35:47 -0400 Oct 11, 2011 Alexandra Esquivel 1 Those complex frameworks are evil (except, the "standard" ones) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 ...]]> Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:55:30 -0400 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:55:30 -0400 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:55:30 -0400 Sep 4, 2011 augustientje bloem 0 Those complex frameworks are evil http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 This comment... is actually ingenious. I *am* for frameworks, as constatntly rolling out your own solution is dumb, but what Byren says is 100% truth. I believe that the community is more and more realizing this too, thus the rise of lite-weight...]]> Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:38:50 -0400 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:38:50 -0400 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:38:50 -0400 Sep 3, 2011 Veggen Skrikk 0 Those complex frameworks are evil (yes, the "standard" ones) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 +1 to Amir's -1

...]]> Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:35:50 -0400 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:35:50 -0400 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:35:50 -0400 Sep 2, 2011 Manolo Gomez 1 Those evil frameworks and their complexity http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 Justin you are missing the most important thing regarding this subject: abstraction level.

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...]]> Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:54:44 -0400 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:54:44 -0400 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:54:44 -0400 Sep 1, 2011 Amir Pashazadeh 2 Those complex frameworks are evil http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 - Hibernate: an abstraction leak as a whole. To use it you need to know the inner workings, caching, annotations, configurations ... SQL and your RDBMS, of course.

- Spring: squeezes in between your code and the Java plattform. Has a Spring...]]> Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:21:52 -0400 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:21:52 -0400 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:21:52 -0400 Aug 31, 2011 R.J. Byron 4 Those evil frameworks and their complexity http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=62898 Frameworks like Hibernate and Spring are industry-standards. JSF, EJB and the likes are also standards and used in many applications. But there are always people that are against these frameworks.

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