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        <title>More advice from a JUG leader: The debate continues</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Dave has posted a second installment of the new JVM language debate on his blog. Check it out <a href="http://jobtipsforgeeks.com/2012/07/18/advicefromajugleaderii/" target="_blank">here</a> and let us know where you stand.</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:14:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>JDenman</jf:author>
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        <title>Mother, Jugs, and Speed</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>As one who has attended Dave's JUG meetings in the past, I'd say he has done a great job for Java developers. &nbsp;This article in TSS is inline with his style of being helpful to the Java community - for a long time. He has street cred. &nbsp;I go...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:48:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Clifford</jf:author>
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        <title>Java is not stagnant; but yes learn more languages!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Craig - No worries, I get that quite a bit from technologists.  It's more a function of the recruiting industry being seen in a negative light, and often that reputation is deserved.  I knew that starting the JUG wouldn't hurt my business obviously,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:10:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
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        <title>Java is not stagnant; but yes learn more languages!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
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        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:10:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:00:28 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Craig Tataryn</jf:author>
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        <title>Java is not stagnant; but yes learn more languages!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
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        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:09:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
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        <title>Java is not  stagnant; but yes learn more languages!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I too am a "JUG" leader (<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://wjpg.ca" target="_newWindow">http://wjpg.ca</a>), however my JUG is a "JVM Programming Group".  I purposely chose JVM over Java because the JVM offers so much more these days than...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:08:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Craig Tataryn</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>frustration with the language is something that most in the Java community will not deny</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:59:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:27:32 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John D</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Some Interesting Facts About That</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:00:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
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        <title>Some Interesting Facts About That</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:15:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tiliis</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Dilettantism</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:46:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
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        <title>Dilettantism</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Toward the end, I feel that the author finally stumbles across the real reason that so many Java developers gravitate toward other languages, when he states, "and are either  bored or frustrated with Java." If this is the reason, then it speaks poorly...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:32:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tiliis</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Advice from a JUG leader - Learn a different language</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>The cry of “<em>Java is Dead</em>” has been heard for many years now,  yet Java still continues to be among the most used  languages/ecosystems.  I am not here to declare that Java is dead (it  isn’t and won’t be anytime soon). My opinion, if you...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:54:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>22</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:41:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 16, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John D</jf:author>
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        <title>Relax</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:17:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 16, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>I do agree and I don't</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:40:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 16, 2012</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dfecak</jf:author>
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