Support Forums: Message List - New graduates may be predicting the future of Java development http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 19:34:21 -0400 Separate hobby from profession http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 ...]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:41:02 -0400 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:41:02 -0400 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:41:02 -0400 Aug 1, 2012 dfecak 0 Separate hobby from profession http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 ...]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:00:31 -0400 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:00:31 -0400 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:00:31 -0400 Aug 1, 2012 peter lin 1 Separate hobby from profession http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 ...]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:53:25 -0400 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:53:25 -0400 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:53:25 -0400 Aug 1, 2012 dfecak 2 Separate hobby from profession http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 ...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:15:27 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:15:27 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:15:27 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 peter lin 0 Separate hobby from profession http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 Companies want to use programming languages where they can find employees for. If there's already a shortage for the mainstream programming languages, why would one decide to buy into a specific area of expertise where there are even less programmers...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:10:48 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:10:48 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:10:48 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 John D 4 think the jury is still out http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 I've shopped around for alternative languages for a number of years,  'broadening my horizon' on the way, but always end back up with Java.  If you strip back all the frameworks, containers, stupid JEE apis, and idiomatic 'best practices'...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:30:16 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:30:16 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:30:16 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 Fro Car 0 Just to be clear http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 I don't believe Java will last forever, nor do I feel it should stay around forever. What I would like is for new languages to consider all factors, not just "less typing". A language can be too verbose or not verbose enough. My bias feeling is many...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:18:13 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:18:13 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:18:13 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 peter lin 0 New graduates may be predicting the future of Java development http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 Java as a language will no doubt stick around for a long time, but pure Java may soon be relegated to the classroom. Java developers remain the toughest positions to fill in the IT world, according to Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:55:09 -0400 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:45:53 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:55:09 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 JDenman 14 The quoted http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 As I was quoted in this one I figured I'd chime in on what I am seeing. 

...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:38:19 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:38:19 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:38:19 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 dfecak 6 Agree with peter http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 ...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:01:04 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:01:04 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:01:04 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 Joe Ned 0 Everyone should know multiple languages http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 I totally agree with you Peter. knowing one language of each type, as you mentioned, is a good starting point.  Not one language can be the silver bullet, but knowing several will increase chances of success in solving a problem or meeting a...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:36:05 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:36:05 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:36:05 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 Eugene Choi 0 Job Security http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 That's why Java sucks because it doesn't give job security. Terse languages let you write unreadable code which makes you invaluable employee ;).  But, seriously speaking, I agree with you. The code is about an order of magnitue read more often...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:27:16 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:27:16 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:27:16 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 Adam Dyga 0 Everyone should know multiple languages http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 Peter, I totally agree. I have had to maintain a lot of code (in addition to mine) in multiple languages and platforms. Long term maintenance is much more important to most software than initial development. Code that requires less mental translation...]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:49:49 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:49:49 -0400 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:49:49 -0400 Jul 31, 2012 Mark N 0 Everyone should know multiple languages http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=66910 All of this debate about Java being stale versus new languages to me is interesting. I'm a firm believer that every developer should know multiple languages and at minimum 1 OO, 1 functional, SQL and 1 scripting.

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