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            <description><![CDATA[Gartner Group independently evaluates app servers and other technologies like integration. ...]]></description>
        

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        <title>BEA takes Oracle Java Performance Challenge and Comes Up Short?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[how can i tell... both are giants in e solutions market]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Hi,...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Benchmarks that mean nothing</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Well, consider this, Weblogic has been around for about 5 years now and is the only app server out there supporting EJB 2.0, Supports EJB clustering (BEA has been doing this for the past 2 years, oracle still does not), web services, Servlet 2.3, J2EE...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[DOWN WITH ORACLE!]]></description>
        

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        <title>BEA takes Oracle Java Performance Challenge and Comes Up Short?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Let ECPerf decide!]]></description>
        

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        <title>BEA takes Oracle Java Performance Challenge and Comes Up Short?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I've worked on project's WebLogic and Orion 1.38(Just before Oracle licensed it), and Orion was faster primarily due to it's caching, it was easier to develop with, deployed faster and our development cycle was really fast....]]></description>
        

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        <title>Oracle - Buying into Trouble</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi guys,...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Why? Surely if the oracle solution performs better what do I as the customer care? If I'm an oracle shop, then why not have all those &quot;nasty&quot; benefits of bypassing massive layers of jdbc indirection? Similarly, why can't I as a BEA shop do the...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[What if we as developers were to create...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Jason:
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<br>But ... BEA ran the very same benchmark that Oracle did and showed that Oracle's tall claims were just that!]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[I have no doubt that the benchmark's developed by Oracle are tilted to their best interest. ie, the j2ee server running wihtin the DBMS (oracle can bypass massive layers of jdbc indirection in certain situations) with transactions structured in such a...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[You measure of reliability though defined correctly is interpreted wrongly. Reliability simply means it has to have a measure. If a machine takes 100 ms for 1000 users and 10000ms for 10000 users that doesn't become less reliable - so if it has one of...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[This is good stuff!...]]></description>
        

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