Well, the mobile market has actually changed along the lines of what I just described. This effect that the industry is starting to realize that wireless, and mobile, and voice, and all those things, are not a separate market that needs separate products. It's more like security if you will. It's something that should blend in to all aspects of the product stack.

You wouldn't go and buy necessarily an application server, and then you buy a separate security server. You expect your application server to come with security, and you wouldn't buy one if it didn't have security. And that's how the middleware market for wireless has evolved, because two years ago people would go and buy an application server and then they would go and buy a separate wireless server, and maybe separate wireless tools to go with it. And they would bring it all in and try to glue it all together and it would be a mess.

But what people are increasingly being able to do-I have a habit of saying "partly in thanks to Oracle"-is buy one application server and it has wireless capabilities built into it. Just like it has security built into it. And by the way your standard J2EE application development tools now work as well with HTA developers from us or from some other vendor who works to build applications on top of that application server for wireless as well as for your desktop applications.