wingS 1.0 beta has been released. WingS is a servlet development framework with a Swing-like application component model. It uses the models, events and event listeners from Swing. Application development with wingS is very similar to application development with Swing.Porting of simple Swing applications to wingS is a job of a few minutes.
Check out wingS.
What do you guys think of this approach to application development? It certainly seems novel. Feel free to help the wingS team with feedback.
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Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available (18 messages)
- Posted by: Floyd Marinescu
- Posted on: May 23 2002 11:48 EDT
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- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Yufeng Chen on May 23 2002 13:55 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by R S on May 23 2002 14:06 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Holger Engels on May 24 2002 02:14 EDT
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Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Tilo Christ on May 24 2002 03:10 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Holger Engels on May 24 2002 05:09 EDT
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Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Tilo Christ on May 24 2002 03:10 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Web Master on May 23 2002 14:12 EDT
- Not so combative please! by Howard Lewis Ship on May 23 2002 16:02 EDT
- Not so combative please! by Web Master on May 23 2002 04:16 EDT
- Not so combative please! by Howard Lewis Ship on May 23 2002 16:02 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Kevin Smith on May 23 2002 15:11 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Rik Van Bruggen on May 23 2002 15:58 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Jeppe Cramon on May 24 2002 05:09 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Jose Maria Arranz on May 24 2002 05:56 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Holger Engels on May 24 2002 06:10 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Christopher Cobb on May 24 2002 07:10 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Eugene Bloss on May 24 2002 16:18 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by pierre loire on May 27 2002 02:32 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by vinay soni on May 24 2002 22:51 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Eugene Bloss on May 24 2002 16:18 EDT
- Open Source wingS 1.0 Beta Framework Available by Michael Mattox on August 22 2002 12:10 EDT
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- Posted by: Yufeng Chen
- Posted on: May 23 2002 13:55 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
The server is too Slow to do anything. Waiting, waiting... timeout -
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- Posted by: R S
- Posted on: May 23 2002 14:06 EDT
- in response to Yufeng Chen
Guess they couldn't SWing it ; ) -
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- Posted by: Holger Engels
- Posted on: May 24 2002 02:14 EDT
- in response to Yufeng Chen
Well, it can't be the server, that is "too slow". The processing of a request takes only a few milli seconds and the documents are small. Maybe the link between you and our server in ulm/germany is slow. Try installing the web apps locally (takes only a few minutes).
Regards,
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- Posted by: Tilo Christ
- Posted on: May 24 2002 03:10 EDT
- in response to Holger Engels
Hi Holger!
I really enjoyed looking at WingS. I like the underlying architecture. I have looked at Creamware in the past, which does the same thing closed source/commercially. Too bad we have implemented our own web GUI components in the meantime here at Siemens. They look much more polished (especially our tables kick ass with dynamic sorting, resizing etc.), but they are not as cleanly structured.
Greetings to you and Nina,
Tilo Christ, tilo dot christ at siemens dot com
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- Posted by: Holger Engels
- Posted on: May 24 2002 05:09 EDT
- in response to Tilo Christ
Hi Tilo!
Really too bad, that you have implemented your own library! I wish, you could join the wingS team ;-)
Holger -
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- Posted by: Web Master
- Posted on: May 23 2002 14:12 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
How is this different/better than Tapestry (the true web components architecture)? -
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- Posted by: Howard Lewis Ship
- Posted on: May 23 2002 16:02 EDT
- in response to Web Master
I love to promote Tapestry too, and I love to see a show of support, but that's a little too combative. I've briefly looked at WingS at it has some great technology, I just don't think it solves the same set of problems which Tapestry addresses.
I'll be releasing Tapestry 2.1 fairly soon, we can rally round the wagons then. -
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- Posted by: Web Master
- Posted on: May 23 2002 16:16 EDT
- in response to Howard Lewis Ship
Looing forward to it! :) -
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- Posted by: Kevin Smith
- Posted on: May 23 2002 15:11 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
on two examples i waited and waited and waited (and then gave up), on the third i got "internal server error" --- so if you really want me to comment based on what i've seen of it... its baaaaad.
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- Posted by: Rik Van Bruggen
- Posted on: May 23 2002 15:58 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
I was able to access the server instantly. It looks like a very innovative idea. Wondering if they have some sort of aa visual development environment for wingS too ... -
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- Posted by: Jeppe Cramon
- Posted on: May 24 2002 05:09 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
This is the closest to a ASP.NET competitor I've seen so far (having looked at Struts, WebWork and Tapestry). Would like to dig more into the framework and see how it work in a real life web app. But it sure looks interesting :)
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- Posted by: Jose Maria Arranz
- Posted on: May 24 2002 05:56 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
It's really cool! and it works with Mozilla 1.0 too.
But I suspect it is not very flexible, because servlet generates HTML response totally from Java server code without hardcoded HTML.
A more flexible aproach could be glue wingS components inside a JSP page.
A very good work.
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- Posted by: Holger Engels
- Posted on: May 24 2002 06:10 EDT
- in response to Jose Maria Arranz
Actually wingS is very flexible.
The TemplateLayout manager allows you to place components inside plain HTML Files. This allows completely separate development of application logic and html code. The templates can be replaced at runtime.
The code generation is pluggable. wingS has a similar LookAndFeel concept like Swing. You can use different look LookAndFeels for different browsers / clients. Even a WML LookAndFeel is possible (though we had no time to write one yet).
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- Posted by: Christopher Cobb
- Posted on: May 24 2002 07:10 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
This sounds similar to JavaServer Faces. See:
http://servlet.java.sun.com/javaone/resources/content/sf2002/conf/sessions/pdfs/1697.pdf
Can anyone compare the two?
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- Posted by: Eugene Bloss
- Posted on: May 24 2002 16:18 EDT
- in response to Christopher Cobb
Wings is existing and working product :)
No really, what they are doing at Sun? Faces are still “in pdf format”,
JSTL is poor. There are several nice products around like Wings, Ticl or Coldtags
Looks like it would be better for Sun (and for all of us) to take existing team on board.
Otherwise ASP.NET guys will eat our food.
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- Posted by: pierre loire
- Posted on: May 27 2002 02:32 EDT
- in response to Eugene Bloss
JSTL is not poor at all, the latest release
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/releases/standard/ really rocks.
give it a try, with JSTL you no longer need scriplets. -
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- Posted by: vinay soni
- Posted on: May 24 2002 22:51 EDT
- in response to Christopher Cobb
It is not possible to compare the two because JSR 127 has not come out with a public draft yet. Yes, it looks like repeated effort. This was pointed out by Dino Fancialu (one of the developers of Swinglets - another product like Wings, out of UK) to the Spec Lead of JSR 127.
It has been one year and they are still cooking. Have they heard of iterative development. I am sure they don't have anything substansial and comparable toWings.
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- Posted by: Michael Mattox
- Posted on: August 22 2002 12:10 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
I just went through the website demos, and the tutorial. At the end I started finding problems (incorrect build files, tutorial directions missing steps, etc.). Overall I think this is a great idea and I'm excited about it but at the same time I feel it's not mature even at Beta.
Michael