As I am sure you know, JavaOne kicked off this morning. TheServerSide will be offering day by day coverage, giving you the juicy info that you want to hear. This information will show up the morning after the night before :) If you are at the conference, please post to this thread anything that you find interesting yourself.
Todays Keynote
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Java is to be everywhere. That was one of the key points Sun is trying to get across. Here is some info:
Pushing the Sun Brand:
Two new websites to look at are http://www.java.com and http://www.java.net. Check out the new logo! To me it looks basically the same, but it probably cost a bomb! The reason for the new logo is that the old one was awful when shrunk (or on small devices). That is probably all :)
Java.Net is not microsoft's J# :) It is a portal for developers. Java.com is for "consumers". That means John Doe... as *everyone* will be using Java. (If you like Christina Aguillera go there).
Showing off tools:
Different vendors came up on stage to show off their tools. Oracle showed JDeveloper playing with JavaServer Faces, Borland showed the integration of their product family (JBuilder + Together + StarTeam + CaliberRM + OptimizeIt!), and Vodofone showed David Beckham commercials.
Gosling was writing code while this was going on :)
We will add detailed info on Day One tomorrow morning, and every morning after that.
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Latest News From JavaOne (21 messages)
- Posted by: Dion Almaer
- Posted on: June 10 2003 14:30 EDT
Threaded Messages (21)
- Also check out... by Simon Brown on June 10 2003 15:27 EDT
- List of JavaOne blog coverage by Craig Pfeifer on June 11 2003 10:27 EDT
- Latest News From JavaOne by Gal Binyamini on June 10 2003 16:06 EDT
- Sun XUL (XML UI) Pinkpaper Online by Gerald Bauer on June 10 2003 16:17 EDT
- Sun XUL (XML UI) Pinkpaper Online by Steve Lewis on June 10 2003 17:25 EDT
- JavaOne, day 1 by Cedric Beust on June 10 2003 19:03 EDT
- Java.net by Corby Page on June 10 2003 19:18 EDT
- Java.Net's Javapedia runs on ... Perl! by Nigel Thomas on June 11 2003 04:13 EDT
- JavaOne, day 1 by Dilip Ranganathan on June 10 2003 22:27 EDT
- JavaOne, day 1 by Cedric Beust on June 11 2003 03:08 EDT
- freeroller.net is toast by Craig Pfeifer on June 10 2003 23:14 EDT
- JavaOne, day 1 by Dimitri Rakitine on June 11 2003 05:23 EDT
- attendance by Cameron Purdy on June 11 2003 02:17 EDT
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Attendence = 8000 est. by Frank Cohen on June 11 2003 02:28 EDT
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Scripting by Cedric Beust on June 11 2003 03:44 EDT
- Scripting by Steve Lewis on June 12 2003 01:34 EDT
- Attendence is little less -- but its quality people by sean decor on June 12 2003 02:43 EDT
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Scripting by Cedric Beust on June 11 2003 03:44 EDT
- Java.net by Corby Page on June 10 2003 19:18 EDT
- Latest News From JavaOne by Erik Bengtson on June 11 2003 11:58 EDT
- Bugged about Jython slighting by Frank Cohen on June 11 2003 14:31 EDT
- JavaOne, day two by Cedric Beust on June 11 2003 18:02 EDT
- HP, Dell to ship Java Web Start with all PCs starting this fall by Gerald Bauer on June 11 2003 19:39 EDT
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Also check out...[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Simon Brown
- Posted on: June 10 2003 15:27 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
Also check out javablogs.com for more JavaOne updates from bloggers (including myself) at the conference. :-)
Simon
www.simongbrown.com -
List of JavaOne blog coverage[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Craig Pfeifer
- Posted on: June 11 2003 10:27 EDT
- in response to Simon Brown
Matt Raible is keeping a list of folks blogging from JavaOne:
http://raibledesigns.com/page/rd/20030609#re_javaone_2003_blogs -
Latest News From JavaOne[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Gal Binyamini
- Posted on: June 10 2003 16:06 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
When I access www.java.com this shows up in the browser's URL box:
http://128.11.159.74/en/index.jsp
Leave it to Sun to a task every 8 yr. old can perform nowadays and screw it up :)
Gal -
Sun XUL (XML UI) Pinkpaper Online[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Gerald Bauer
- Posted on: June 10 2003 16:17 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
Hi,
I've written up a story in the XUL News Wire about Amy Fowler's pinkpaper titled "Java Desktop Network Components (JDNC): Boosting Interactivity and Productivity at the Same Time" outlining Sun's new XUL (XML UI) strategy.
Full story at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.xul.announce/29 -
Sun XUL (XML UI) Pinkpaper Online[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Lewis
- Posted on: June 10 2003 17:25 EDT
- in response to Gerald Bauer
Thanks for the link. XUL should really kick into high gear if they can do that. I wasn't sure which "thicker" client-side tech to start trying to learn.
Steve -
JavaOne, day 1[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cedric Beust
- Posted on: June 10 2003 19:03 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
I posted my impressions on day one on my blog. Feel free to comment here, though.
http://freeroller.net/page/cbeust/20030610
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Cedric
http://beust.com/weblog -
Java.net[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Corby Page
- Posted on: June 10 2003 19:18 EDT
- in response to Cedric Beust
Java.net is down, hard. Too bad, looked pretty cool.
Sun's got the momentum, though. By JavaOne 2008, Java will be capable of running high-traffic websites!
(Wow, Rolfing can be fun...) -
Java.Net's Javapedia runs on ... Perl![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nigel Thomas
- Posted on: June 11 2003 04:13 EDT
- in response to Corby Page
I see the Javapedia section of Java.Net runs using the Lynton Research), but perhaps they could have used one of the many Java Wiki Engines out there?
Cheers Nigel -
JavaOne, day 1[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Dilip Ranganathan
- Posted on: June 10 2003 22:27 EDT
- in response to Cedric Beust
I posted my impressions on day one on my blog. Feel free to comment here, though.
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Cedric
If you happen to attend Ted Neward's Is Webservices == CORBA? talk around 4PM on 12th, can you let us know your impressions. It seems like a very interesting topic.
thanks
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JavaOne, day 1[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cedric Beust
- Posted on: June 11 2003 03:08 EDT
- in response to Dilip Ranganathan
If you happen to attend Ted Neward's Is Webservices == CORBA? talk around 4PM on 12th, can you let us know your impressions. It seems like a very interesting topic.
I am afraid I'll be on duty at the BEA booth then, sorry about that (I would have loved to attend Ted's presentation).
If you'll be around Wednesday between 4:30 and 7, stop by at the BEA booth to say hi!
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Cedric
back from the Borland party... whewf! -
freeroller.net is toast[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Craig Pfeifer
- Posted on: June 10 2003 23:14 EDT
- in response to Cedric Beust
Looks like freeroller.net is down. Way to go Cedric! -
JavaOne, day 1[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Dimitri Rakitine
- Posted on: June 11 2003 05:23 EDT
- in response to Cedric Beust
Is it true attendance is that much down? With only 5,000 (according to Cedric's weblog) Moscone must be pretty empty this year. -
attendance[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cameron Purdy
- Posted on: June 11 2003 14:17 EDT
- in response to Dimitri Rakitine
According to several people here, it's not as big as last year, maybe 1 or 2 thousand less. It's hard to tell of course.
The keynotes should give a pretty good relative idea of how many people may be here, give or take. I'll try to estimate a count of the seats later today.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc. -
Attendence = 8000 est.[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Frank Cohen
- Posted on: June 11 2003 14:28 EDT
- in response to Dimitri Rakitine
The General Session on Tuesday was pretty packed. It looked like most seats were taken, with overflow rooms used too. I counted approx. 8000 seats in the main hall. In my opinion, attendence figures don't really count that much anymore. Java is getting mature and the real work is happening in enterprise software shops.
-Frank Cohen
http://www.pushtotest.com
TestMaker 4.0 now shipping -
Scripting[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cedric Beust
- Posted on: June 11 2003 15:44 EDT
- in response to Frank Cohen
I'm bugged by the lack of support for Jython at Sun.
Well, if it's any comfort, Ted O'Reilly went on stage this morning at the keynote and touted scripting languages. However, Sun seems to be standardizing on PHP, not Python.
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Cedric
http://beust.com/weblog -
Scripting[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Lewis
- Posted on: June 12 2003 13:34 EDT
- in response to Cedric Beust
Even if Sun was standardizing on PHP for web scripting, Jython would still be valuable. Basically Jython can act as an interactive Java shell, and as far as I know php doesn't really do that.
Steve -
Attendence is little less -- but its quality people[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: sean decor
- Posted on: June 12 2003 14:43 EDT
- in response to Frank Cohen
We all know that economy has left its mark on Java one also. So lets not try to hide that fact and accept it gracefully that java one crowd is less this year.
But we have to also note that in previous years it was most of the STUPID dot coms with a lot of yoyoys and pens and paper weights and other shi* given more importance than the core products they sold.
This year its all the fittest surviving people in the Java world and they are here to stay. So i think its good that some of the stupids dont show up in Java one and there is some quality work going out there. -
Latest News From JavaOne[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Erik Bengtson
- Posted on: June 11 2003 11:58 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
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Bugged about Jython slighting[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Frank Cohen
- Posted on: June 11 2003 14:31 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
I'm bugged by the lack of support for Jython at Sun. To thier credit Sun did mention Jython when talking about JSR-223 (Java support for Scripting Languages) and scheduled a birds-of-a-feather session here at JavaOne. However, Jython was slighted too: The BOF started at 11:20 pm, and in the general session on Tuesday Tim O'Reilly messed up and said Jython is a good combination of Pearl and Java. He meant to say Python and Java.
Sun seems to be missing-the-boat on what Jython really brings to Java: IT'S THE BYTE-CODES STUPID! Jython compiles into Java byte-codes and runs natively on the Java VM. To a Java developer that means full access to all of Python's objects and also to all of Java's objects. Sun should throw away JSR-223 and start again. They should start by writing a specification that lets all scripting languages compile to Java byte-codes. That would be progress.
-Frank Cohen
http://www.PushToTest.com
TestMaker 4.0 now includes a test script recorder -
JavaOne, day two[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cedric Beust
- Posted on: June 11 2003 18:02 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
I posted a short summary of day two at
http://freeroller.net/page/cbeust/20030611
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Cedric
http://beust.com/weblog -
HP, Dell to ship Java Web Start with all PCs starting this fall[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Gerald Bauer
- Posted on: June 11 2003 19:39 EDT
- in response to Dion Almaer
Hi,
I've written up a story in the Java Web Start News Wire about Sun's new deal with Dell and HP - the #1 and
#2 PC makers (at least in the US) - about shipping Sun's latest Java runtime pre-installed on all their desktop and notebook PCs starting this fall.
Full story at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.jnlp.announce/9