Oracle today announced the availability of its J2EE 1.4 Developer Preview, which includes beta's of the new Oracle 10g appserver and Toplink 10g. The appserver now features J2EE 1.4 support, as well as a two phase commit transactions, JMX 1.2, JSR-77/88 support, and integrated TopLink CMP. Toplink now features JAXB, legacy mapping via JCA, and more.
Check out the OC4J 10g developer preview and Oracle Application Server TopLink 10g.
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Oracle Issues J2EE 1.4 Developer Preview (internetworld).
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Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink (42 messages)
- Posted by: Floyd Marinescu
- Posted on: September 04 2003 15:07 EDT
Threaded Messages (42)
- Is that the price? by Jason Carreira on September 04 2003 15:41 EDT
- price by Craig Pfeifer on September 04 2003 16:26 EDT
- RE: Price by shay shmelzer on September 04 2003 07:58 EDT
- Is that the price? by Venkata Ramana Koneti on September 05 2003 04:54 EDT
- price by Craig Pfeifer on September 04 2003 16:26 EDT
- JMS 1.1? by Sean Sullivan on September 04 2003 17:29 EDT
- JMS 1.1? by Jagan Vasantharao on September 04 2003 17:38 EDT
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Good .. by Ved Gangaputra on September 04 2003 06:01 EDT
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Not good... by andrej koelewijn on September 05 2003 07:37 EDT
- Again late? by Fermin Castro on September 05 2003 08:31 EDT
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Not good... by andrej koelewijn on September 05 2003 07:37 EDT
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Good .. by Ved Gangaputra on September 04 2003 06:01 EDT
- JMS 1.1? by Jagan Vasantharao on September 04 2003 17:38 EDT
- What does 10g mean? by SungHyun Park on September 04 2003 20:31 EDT
- What does 10g mean? by Ruben Tsui on September 05 2003 08:21 EDT
- g means grid? by Peter Cheng on September 04 2003 21:06 EDT
- Any news about JDeveloper 10G ? by Ivan Ooi on September 04 2003 21:18 EDT
- Any news about JDeveloper 10G ? by Raghu Kodali on September 05 2003 02:26 EDT
- Any news about JDeveloper 10G ? by Vimal Kansal on September 06 2003 12:58 EDT
- Any news about JDeveloper 10G ? by Raghu Kodali on September 05 2003 02:26 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Kinsley Burton on September 04 2003 21:25 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Cameron Purdy on September 04 2003 22:01 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Tomas Kysela on September 06 2003 03:52 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Cameron Purdy on September 04 2003 22:01 EDT
- whatever happened to 9.0.4 by Alfonso Serra on September 05 2003 03:37 EDT
- whatever happened to 9.0.4 by Ivan Ooi on September 05 2003 09:51 EDT
- Version 9.04 is now 10g of app server by Patrick Miller on September 08 2003 11:00 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Rod Johnson on September 05 2003 04:35 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Steven Shaw on September 16 2003 04:35 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Smythe on September 05 2003 08:43 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by George de la Torre on September 05 2003 09:41 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Nader Aeinehchi on September 07 2003 09:33 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Debu Panda on September 05 2003 10:44 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Eric Ma on September 05 2003 02:59 EDT
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Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by George de la Torre on September 05 2003 10:38 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by George de la Torre on September 06 2003 09:27 EDT
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Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Debu Panda on September 08 2003 01:39 EDT
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Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Smythe on September 09 2003 05:13 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Debu Panda on September 10 2003 01:37 EDT
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Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Smythe on September 09 2003 05:13 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Marcus Brito on September 06 2003 04:13 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by Smythe on September 05 2003 11:14 EDT
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Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Debu Panda on September 05 2003 01:26 EDT
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Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Eric Ma on September 05 2003 02:16 EDT
- Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Rob Clark on September 05 2003 04:49 EDT
- Oracle Application Server: confusing version numbers! by Cary Bloom on September 05 2003 03:14 EDT
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Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Jason Carreira on September 06 2003 11:23 EDT
- Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Eric Ma on September 06 2003 02:40 EDT
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Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Eric Ma on September 05 2003 02:16 EDT
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Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases by Debu Panda on September 05 2003 01:26 EDT
- Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink by George de la Torre on September 05 2003 09:41 EDT
- Lightweight transaction coordinator by Sean Sullivan on September 16 2003 12:12 EDT
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Is that the price?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jason Carreira
- Posted on: September 04 2003 15:41 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
Does the new "10g" branding reflect the price? ;-) -
price[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Craig Pfeifer
- Posted on: September 04 2003 16:26 EDT
- in response to Jason Carreira
Does the new "10g" branding reflect the price? ;-)
Nah, that's way too cheap for Oracle. -
RE: Price[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: shay shmelzer
- Posted on: September 04 2003 19:58 EDT
- in response to Craig Pfeifer
Actually Oracle offers its J2EE server(+TopLink + 5 seats of JDeveloper) for 5G ($5,000).
This is what Oracle refers to as the Java Edition of Oracle Application Server.
But before you pay anything - just try it out for free by downloading it from
http://otn.oracle.com -
Is that the price?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Venkata Ramana Koneti
- Posted on: September 05 2003 04:54 EDT
- in response to Jason Carreira
No that is for grid computing -
JMS 1.1?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Sean Sullivan
- Posted on: September 04 2003 17:29 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
Does it implement JMS 1.1? -
JMS 1.1?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jagan Vasantharao
- Posted on: September 04 2003 17:38 EDT
- in response to Sean Sullivan
Provides JMS 1.1 implementations with OC4J JMS and Oracle JMS. -
Good ..[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ved Gangaputra
- Posted on: September 04 2003 18:01 EDT
- in response to Jagan Vasantharao
We always complain Oracle is too late for J2EE, they are apparently not .. -
Not good...[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: andrej koelewijn
- Posted on: September 05 2003 07:37 EDT
- in response to Ved Gangaputra
We always complain Oracle is too late for J2EE, they are apparently not ..
Well they are again late, as 10G will not be production until summer of 2004. -
Again late?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Fermin Castro
- Posted on: September 05 2003 08:31 EDT
- in response to andrej koelewijn
Well, i don´t know exactly what you mean by "being late again" Is there any standard spec for grip computing that anyone out there is implementing already?. As for the j2ee spec, you know that 1.4 is still in Beta 2, so... In any case, you can find here quite a few things included in 1.4 that you can already test in Oracle´s j2ee container preview:
http://otn.oracle.com/tech/java/oc4j/1003/content_preview.html -
What does 10g mean?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: SungHyun Park
- Posted on: September 04 2003 20:31 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
10g!!!
Very interesting^^
What does 10g stand for? -
What does 10g mean?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ruben Tsui
- Posted on: September 05 2003 08:21 EDT
- in response to SungHyun Park
10g!!!
> Very interesting^^
> What does 10g stand for?
The license fees for acquiring the software, which is
the amount of GOLD necessary to produce a gravitational
pull of this magnitude. :)
(No offense, Oracle ;^) the company I work for is the
largest Oracle account in Taiwan :) -
g means grid?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Peter Cheng
- Posted on: September 04 2003 21:06 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
Will oracle 10g J2EE Appserver add grid computing capability? -
Any news about JDeveloper 10G ?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ivan Ooi
- Posted on: September 04 2003 21:18 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
I just cant wait to get one copy of JDeveloper 10G. quite promissing the
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Any news about JDeveloper 10G ?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Raghu Kodali
- Posted on: September 05 2003 02:26 EDT
- in response to Ivan Ooi
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Any news about JDeveloper 10G ?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Vimal Kansal
- Posted on: September 06 2003 00:58 EDT
- in response to Raghu Kodali
Will it support all the APIs of JWSDP
Vimal -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Kinsley Burton
- Posted on: September 04 2003 21:25 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
Isn't 10g at least in one way a step backward from 9i?
:)
Kinsley -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cameron Purdy
- Posted on: September 04 2003 22:01 EDT
- in response to Kinsley Burton
Isn't 10g at least in one way a step backward from 9i?
There's a saying: "One step forward, two steps back." (9 to 10 is one step forward, i to g is two steps back.)
So, has anyone tried the new 10g "grid features" yet? What are they?
I found this (but about the 9i database):
http://otn.oracle.com/oramag/webcolumns/2003/opinion/souder_opcol_0703.html
And this:
http://otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/grid_computing/content.html
If anyone gets to the Oracle show in SF, post a summary of what they cover on 10g please.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
Coherence: Easily share live data across a cluster! -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Tomas Kysela
- Posted on: September 06 2003 03:52 EDT
- in response to Cameron Purdy
Hi Cameron, I am also interested in "new grid features". But I am afraid that using grid in appserver's name is just for marketing purposes. I hope, that OracleWorld Online will bring answers to our questions.
Tomas -
whatever happened to 9.0.4[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Alfonso Serra
- Posted on: September 05 2003 03:37 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
Does 10g (10.0.3) mean that Oracle forgets 9.0.4 version?? It was scheduled for "summer 2003". -
whatever happened to 9.0.4[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ivan Ooi
- Posted on: September 05 2003 09:51 EDT
- in response to Alfonso Serra
well, basically u can forget about 9.0.4 ... unless u request it from them...
make sure u pay for the support fee....
They stop 9.0.4 (Unless u request it from them) -
Version 9.04 is now 10g of app server[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Patrick Miller
- Posted on: September 08 2003 11:00 EDT
- in response to Alfonso Serra
I discovered from our Oracle rep that version 9.04 of app server which was supposed to come out now, is being released at 10i later.
Patrick Miller
University of Notre Dame -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Rod Johnson
- Posted on: September 05 2003 04:35 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
This sounds very encouraging. I've always liked Orion (although I've encountered some RMI bugs that have driven me back to WebLogic in a recent project) and I've heard that Oracle have made some worthwhile improvements. However, the lack of a lightweight transaction coordinator supporting 2PC in 9iAS seemed a major omission. Once Oracle has this, it should become much more competitive.
Regards,
Rod -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steven Shaw
- Posted on: September 16 2003 04:35 EDT
- in response to Rod Johnson
What? Oracle 9iAS doesn't support 2PC? Wow. I would have thought that supporting 2PC/XA would have been part of the J2EE spec. Anyone know any other application servers that don't support 2PC? -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Smythe
- Posted on: September 05 2003 08:43 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
hi Ppl,
I'm quite confused... how does Grid computing bebefit a J2EE container. J2EE has no concept/support of/for splitting computational tasks across multiple nodes/machines. So what features does grid computing bring to J2EE? Or am I missing something?
Cheers
Smythe -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: George de la Torre
- Posted on: September 05 2003 09:41 EDT
- in response to Smythe
When will Oracle stop releasing press and release a "real" world working application server.
I don't know how these Oracle shops run their distributed applications on press releases...
Someone told me these Oracle shops are usually trapped with monolithic PL/SQL spaghetti and live on the hope of press releases.
So, really, anyone out there using Oracle9iAS on an Object Oriented based distributed system. I mean applications, which really use CMP for their business objects with perhaps, rule engines, Web Services, J2EE connector services and even CORBA? -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nader Aeinehchi
- Posted on: September 07 2003 09:33 EDT
- in response to George de la Torre
We have been using Oracle's J2EE Container for Java (OC4J) from release 1.0.
We have been absolutely happy with this product. In my personal experience, this is a fast, reliable product. OC4J is simple to learn, easy to maintain and is the most developer-friendly product I know about. I have extensively developed on other J2EE servers too, but I prefer OC4J.
J2EE is a strategic area for Oracle. However, my impression is that Oracle customers are behind the development and are stuck with PL/SQL technology. -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Debu Panda
- Posted on: September 05 2003 10:44 EDT
- in response to Smythe
Hi George,
Probably you are unaware that Oracle is one of the largest J2EE Application server vendor and several customers use Oracle's J2EE container in production environment and indeed CMP engine and other features.
Also the Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE (OC4J) is purely written in Java and the same distribution runs in any platform and it does not depend on PL/SQL or anything else you mentioned. You can find more about this at http://otn.oracle.com/tech/java/oc4j/content.html .
You can view the some of the customer profiles that uses Oracle's J2EE containers from the http://www.oracle.com/customers/index.html?jtw.html .
By the way, when you made the posting probably you may have used Oracle9iAS as theserverside.com uses Oracle9iAS beside few others .. Please see http://www.oracle.com/customers/profiles/PROFILE9585.HTML
Probably you don't know Oracle submitted all it's record breaking ECPerf and SPECjAppServer benchmarks using it's CMP engine ..
regards
Debu Panda
Oracle
Oracle -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Eric Ma
- Posted on: September 05 2003 14:59 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Forgibe my ignorance, but you did not answer the original question - how does OC4J 903 handle JTA Tx's spanning Oracle and M$ SQL Server databases, or JMS receive followed by a JDBC call. -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: George de la Torre
- Posted on: September 05 2003 22:38 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Hi Debu
I have nothing against Oracle, but its very frustrating that with your deceptive marketing and targeting "Non-technical" information technology managers. These managers are the decision makers, which causes real technical developers pain and suffering.
>"Probably you are unaware that Oracle is one of the largest J2EE Application server vendor and several customers use Oracle's J2EE container in production environment and indeed CMP engine and other features. "
How many were already Oracle customers and got Oracle9iAS by default? Better question how many Oracle9iAS user don't use Oracle database? How long has Oracle9iAS been EJB "fully" compliant for "production"? I wonder if these several customers just needed Tomcat...
>Also the Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE (OC4J) is purely written in Java and the same distribution runs in any platform and it does not depend on PL/SQL or anything else you mentioned. You can find more about this at http://otn.oracle.com/tech/java/oc4j/content.html."
Purely written in Java is no longer a marketing or technical hype these days. You can start thanking Orion for your OC4J product. No thanks for the link, I already everything I need to know about your application server.
>"You can view the some of the customer profiles that uses Oracle's J2EE containers from the http://www.oracle.com/customers/index.html?jtw.html. "
I urge everyone to take your advice and read those customer profiles. Then go check out Weblogic, Borland Enterprise Server and other application server profiles.
>"By the way, when you made the posting probably you may have used Oracle9iAS as theserverside.com uses Oracle9iAS beside few others.. Please see http://www.oracle.com/customers/profiles/PROFILE9585.HTML "
I really like these TSS guys, but after the .NET vs. J2EE fiasco, I don't put too much value in TSS internal projects. I comment only by my own "hands on" experience and facts.
>"Probably you don't know Oracle submitted all it's record breaking ECPerf and SPECjAppServer benchmarks using it's CMP engine..”
I always liked OC4J, nimble and fast (again thanks to Orion)- however, a fast CMP engine is just one aspect of the complete J2EE picture. OC4J alone is applicable in many situations, as long as Oracle keeps their hands off.
So, if OC4J fulfils the requirement just stick with the pure Orion product. -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: George de la Torre
- Posted on: September 06 2003 21:27 EDT
- in response to George de la Torre
"You can view the some of the customer profiles that uses Oracle's J2EE containers from the http://www.oracle.com/customers/index.html?jtw.html. "
I urge everyone to take your advice and read those customer profiles. Then go check out Weblogic, Borland Enterprise Server and other application server profiles.
Hello Panda, please answer my post and tell the world how wrong I am, I'm ready to reply to your rebottle, so come on and tell us how great your application server is...
Please, let's put a stop to Oracle's game and read these customer profiles. Better yet, download Oracle9iAS and see for yourself.
Too bad Oracle is not subjected to Doctor's like malpractice cases - imagine what a class action case against Oracle would look like... -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Debu Panda
- Posted on: September 08 2003 13:39 EDT
- in response to George de la Torre
George,
See my response inline. Unfortunately I'm busy in the OracleWorld and could not respond to your questions earlier.
>>"I have nothing against Oracle, but its very frustrating that with your deceptive marketing and targeting "Non-technical" information technology managers. These managers are the decision makers, which causes real technical developers pain and suffering."
Probably you are mistaken that I'm marketing person. Im not a Product Marketing Manager and indeed the Technical Product Manager and responsible for the EJB container. This is not a marketing gimmick and we have real implementation of J2EE 1.4 features that several customers were asking. So you cannot comment without trying out the product !
>>>"How many were already Oracle customers and got Oracle9iAS by default? Better question how many Oracle9iAS user don't use Oracle database? How long has Oracle9iAS been EJB "fully" compliant for "production"? I wonder if these several customers just needed Tomcat... "
Oracle's current EJB 1.1 compliant container has been available and production since June 2001 and several of our customers are using the EJB container. I don't know whether you are aware that Oracle has more than 16,000 customers that are using Oracle Application Server. We have support for EJB 2.0 in a production release for more than a year.
>>Purely written in Java is no longer a marketing or technical hype these days. You can start thanking Orion for your OC4J product. No thanks for the link, I already everything I need to know about your application server
I mentioned this only because you tried to create confustion that Oracle Application Server uses PL/SQL and proprietary stuff. OC4J 10.0.3 preview release demonstrates Oracle's commitment to J2EE
>>I urge everyone to take your advice and read those customer profiles. Then go check out Weblogic, Borland Enterprise Server and other application server profiles.
You are welcome to do that.
>>
I always liked OC4J, nimble and fast (again thanks to Orion)- however, a fast CMP engine is just one aspect of the complete J2EE picture. OC4J alone is applicable in many situations, as long as Oracle keeps their hands off.
So, if OC4J fulfils the requirement just stick with the pure Orion product
Probably you are not aware OC4J is not Orion. Oracle has greatly enhanced the container and made it performant and enterprise ready since it licensed Orion. You can no longer compare the these products. We had J2EE 1.3 compliance much before Orion had, we have preview features of J2EE 1.4 and integration with Toplink CMP that Orion does not have. OC4J now performs better with Oracle database and OC4J is now certified to be used to third-party databases like DB2, SQLServer, etc. using DataDirect JDBC drivers(available free) and we have several customers using OC4J with third-party databases.
regards
Debu Panda
Oracle -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Smythe
- Posted on: September 09 2003 05:13 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Debu,
Please could you tell me what Grid Computing features your new app server(s) will have? or does the grid features just apply to the new release of the database?
Cheers
Smythe -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Debu Panda
- Posted on: September 10 2003 13:37 EDT
- in response to Smythe
Smythe,
You can find about the Grid features in Oracle Application Server 10g (9.0.4) by looking the New Features document
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/pdf/10g_904_NF_WP.pdf
regards
Debu -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Marcus Brito
- Posted on: September 06 2003 16:13 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Wow, Oracle employs a Panda! How nice! I wonder if they shoud make their next product box black-and-white :) -
Oracle releases previews of J2EE 1.4 10g Appserver and Toplink[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Smythe
- Posted on: September 05 2003 11:14 EDT
- in response to Smythe
sorry my questuion should have been :
"how does Grid computing BENEFIT a J2EE container. J2EE has no concept/support of/for splitting computational tasks across multiple nodes/machines. So what features does grid computing bring to J2EE? Or am I missing something?"
Cheers
Smythe... -
Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Debu Panda
- Posted on: September 05 2003 13:26 EDT
- in response to Smythe
Looks like there has been some confusion about different releases of Oracle Application Server. Let me clarify that Oracle9iAS 9.0.4 is **not cancelled** and is being enhanced with Grid computing features and will be released next month as Oracle Application Server 10g (9.0.4).
To summarize we have two major releases planned:
Oracle Application Server 10g (904) - production in October
Oracle Application Server 10g (10.0.3)- production in Summer 2004
regards
Debu Panda
Principal Product Manager
Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE (OC4J) -
Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Eric Ma
- Posted on: September 05 2003 14:16 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Oracle Application Server 10g (904) - production in October
How confusing is that?
Does the 904 version (let's use the real version and forget about marketing hype) implement J2EE 1.4 features, or should be wait till next summer? -
Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Rob Clark
- Posted on: September 05 2003 16:49 EDT
- in response to Eric Ma
Oracle Application Server 10g (904) - production in October
>
> How confusing is that?
>
> Does the 904 version (let's use the real version and forget about marketing hype) implement J2EE 1.4 features, or should be wait till next summer?
OC4J 10g 9.0.4 implements J2EE 1.3 functionality
OC4J 10g 10.0.3 implements J2EE 1.4 functionality
The 10.0.3 version is a developer preview and it is available now, so there is no need to wait until next summer to start using it for development. For development projects that are going production before summer 2004, we'd obviously recommend going with 9.0.4.
Rob.
Director, OC4J Product Management -
Oracle Application Server: confusing version numbers![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cary Bloom
- Posted on: September 05 2003 15:14 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Debu Panda "principal product manager" says:
> To summarize we have two major releases planned:
>
> Oracle Application Server 10g (904) - production in October
> Oracle Application Server 10g (10.0.3)- production in Summer 2004
This is pretty confusing (to say the least)! -
Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jason Carreira
- Posted on: September 06 2003 11:23 EDT
- in response to Debu Panda
Looks like there has been some confusion about different releases of Oracle Application Server. Let me clarify that Oracle9iAS 9.0.4 is **not cancelled** and is being enhanced with Grid computing features and will be released next month as Oracle Application Server 10g (9.0.4).
>
> To summarize we have two major releases planned:
>
> Oracle Application Server 10g (904) - production in October
> Oracle Application Server 10g (10.0.3)- production in Summer 2004
>
> regards
> Debu Panda
> Principal Product Manager
> Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE (OC4J)
Gee, I don't know how anyone could be confused by that. 2 product releases with the same name but an entire version number apart, one implementing J2EE 1.3, the other J2EE 1.4... Yeah, no confusion there...
Of course, we don't need to worry about it, because Oracle will have rebranded their whole product line to something completely different next year... Let's see... Grid computing was cool, so we have 10g.... by next year, AOP should be all the rage in new development, so we'll see Oracle 11a :-) -
Oracle Application Server - Upcoming Releases[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Eric Ma
- Posted on: September 06 2003 14:40 EDT
- in response to Jason Carreira
I can see ORCL is facing a delimma here: it wants to follow the same marketing ploy of BEAS by rolling out a new version of OC4J with only incremental new features (similar to the move from WebLogic Server 7.0 to 8.1). This results in a product strangely named "Oracle Application Server 10g (9.0.4)". Well, at least they are honest about it - 9.0.4 means it is not a major new product and it is still J2EE 1.3 technology, not 1.4. My suggestion is to call it Oracle10gAS 10.0.1 if they have to have the letter "g" in there, and explain why the Oracle9iAS 9.0.4 name is removed from the product strategy. -
Lightweight transaction coordinator[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Sean Sullivan
- Posted on: September 16 2003 12:12 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
What is a "lightweight transaction coordinator" ?