I'm pleased to announce that the NetBeans 3.6 beta release is now available for download and testing.
Some of the new features in NetBeans 3.6 beta include:
A new windowing system, providing native look and feel
Enhanced navigation and workflow
2-tier J2EE 1.4 support (servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0)
Improved JSP debugging with JSR-45 Support
Tomcat 5 Integration
Code editor enhancements such as Smart Brackets and Code Folding
Integrated testing support through JUnit
Improved online help with JavaHelp 2.0 integration
and more ...
Read more about the NetBeans 3.6 beta release at:
http://www.netbeans.org/community/planning/36/
Find out What's new in NetBeans 3.6:
http://www.netbeans.org/community/planning/36/Whats_New.html
Download and try the 3.6 beta release available at:
http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/ide/next.html
Read a review at Review: NetBeans 3.6 New Windowing System
Finally, you can help to improve the 3.6 release by testing and providing much needed feedback at nbusers at netbeans dot org
Thanks,
-Steve
Steve Wilson
Engineering Director
Developer Platforms
Sun Microsystems
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NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available (21 messages)
- Posted by: Steve Wilson
- Posted on: February 09 2004 09:36 EST
Threaded Messages (21)
- How about working on multiple projects simultaneously? by Konstantin Ignatyev on February 11 2004 10:20 EST
- How about working on multiple projects simultaneously? by Vojtech Patrny on February 11 2004 13:45 EST
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How about working on multiple projects simultaneously? by Konstantin Ignatyev on February 11 2004 02:17 EST
- How about working on multiple projects simultaneously? by Gerry G on February 11 2004 04:04 EST
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How about working on multiple projects simultaneously? by Konstantin Ignatyev on February 11 2004 02:17 EST
- NetBeans 4.0 by Steve Wilson on February 12 2004 01:20 EST
- How about working on multiple projects simultaneously? by Vojtech Patrny on February 11 2004 13:45 EST
- thanks. by dav kh on February 11 2004 16:35 EST
- looks badly on W2K by qlfon qlfon on February 11 2004 23:24 EST
- looks OK on my W2K by Igor Fairman on February 12 2004 04:03 EST
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looks OK on my W2K by Duncan Eley on February 12 2004 02:05 EST
- looks OK on my W2K by qlfon qlfon on February 13 2004 04:36 EST
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looks OK on my W2K by Duncan Eley on February 12 2004 02:05 EST
- looks badly on W2K by Vladimir Goncharov on February 12 2004 15:39 EST
- Native vs. Cross-platform L&F by Steve Wilson on February 12 2004 06:59 EST
- looks OK on my W2K by Igor Fairman on February 12 2004 04:03 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Smythe on February 12 2004 04:17 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Henrique Steckelberg on February 12 2004 05:23 EST
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NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Smythe on February 12 2004 09:54 EST
- Are there any plans to improve the auto-complete engine? by Behrang Saeedzadeh on February 12 2004 10:49 EST
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NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Smythe on February 12 2004 09:54 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Henrique Steckelberg on February 12 2004 05:23 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Nguyen Anh Tuan on February 12 2004 20:31 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Nguyen Anh Tuan on February 12 2004 20:34 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Ajith Joseph on February 12 2004 20:56 EST
- NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available by Miles Woodroffe on February 13 2004 00:57 EST
- Thank You by Steve Wilson on February 13 2004 16:59 EST
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How about working on multiple projects simultaneously?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Konstantin Ignatyev
- Posted on: February 11 2004 10:20 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
Biggest problem with NB for me was lack of ability to work on multiple independent (almost) projects simultaneously. Is it possible with NB? -
How about working on multiple projects simultaneously?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Vojtech Patrny
- Posted on: February 11 2004 13:45 EST
- in response to Konstantin Ignatyev
Well you have to use netbeans project support. Switching from project to project isn`t very time consuming. -
How about working on multiple projects simultaneously?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Konstantin Ignatyev
- Posted on: February 11 2004 14:17 EST
- in response to Vojtech Patrny
Project switching IS very time consuming!
So I use IDEA normally(95%) and sometimes use Swing UI builder from NB.
Lack of good support for refactoring is another key factor for not using NB. Was that improved? -
How about working on multiple projects simultaneously?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Gerry G
- Posted on: February 11 2004 16:04 EST
- in response to Konstantin Ignatyev
I agree - project switching needs to be handled much better in NB and SunONE, or rather, I'd like to see no switching at all -- ie, you can work on ANY project mounted in your workspace. And as you mention, refactoring in a project (which is coming in NB 4.0?) is useful, but I'd also like to see refactoring BETWEEN projects. IE, I want to move code between projects and have each of them respond appropriately to the changes. There's a lot of things I like about NB/SunONE, but they still have a ways to go before I don't "notice" it getting in my way. Each release does seem a fair amount better, though, so they'll get there eventually. Can't wait for Gosling's stuff to get done and folded in... -
NetBeans 4.0[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Wilson
- Posted on: February 12 2004 01:20 EST
- in response to Konstantin Ignatyev
NetBeans 4 (due this summer) will include a major overhaul of the project system that will allow for multiple projects. Expect to see early builds of this on the site in the next couple months.
Thanks,
-steve -
thanks.[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: dav kh
- Posted on: February 11 2004 16:35 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
thanks for this version.
i tried it and it so much better than previous version but i cannot still use it for real applications (i use jbuilderx). better design and good speed. just these version get much more cpu (i am working on a pentium 4 1700).
i think version 4 will be usable for real projects.
and want to see what will be the results when netbeans developing team use enhanced code from rave project?
Thanks again for this much better version. -
looks badly on W2K[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: qlfon qlfon
- Posted on: February 11 2004 23:24 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
Some of the new features in NetBeans 3.6 beta include:
> A new windowing system, providing native look and feel
New UI looks really _ugly_ on win2k, and is far away from native look and feel.
One thing you can do is switch back to metal.
gregory -
looks OK on my W2K[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Igor Fairman
- Posted on: February 12 2004 04:03 EST
- in response to qlfon qlfon
I'm curious that you think it looks ugly on W2K. I think it looks really good. Metal is beginning to look a bit tired to me.
Ian. -
looks OK on my W2K[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Duncan Eley
- Posted on: February 12 2004 14:05 EST
- in response to Igor Fairman
I'm curious that you think it looks ugly on W2K. I think it looks really good. Metal is beginning to look a bit tired to me.
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> Ian.
I agree. I much prefer the new native look and feel to the Metal look and feel (on W2K and XP) and think it renders well. Metal is beginning to look old and very heavy. The new layout is also much cleaner - a great usability improvement. The legacy Metal icons just need replacing now.
Duncan. -
looks OK on my W2K[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: qlfon qlfon
- Posted on: February 13 2004 16:36 EST
- in response to Duncan Eley
No it doesn't look OK. Just stop netbeans, open control panel and do change colors, fonts etc. or just select any theme without blue window title bar.
Then start netbeans (with windows LAF). You will see.
Blueish gradients on subpanels, dark blue o selection bar on property pages, strange white semi buttons with ... on right side of any property, window buttons from open drop down combo box.
Also look at tabs with editors and 3 small buttons - they are inconsisted with tabs - they should be as flat as tabs, probably with some hover efects.
In fact windows native like gui i far far away in look from other windows based program.
All GUI is inconsitent and still need _heavy_ work to be acceptable. That's why i wrote that old metal netbeans LAF i better.
When you select skinned WinXP and silver theme - gui looks better.
gregory -
looks badly on W2K[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Vladimir Goncharov
- Posted on: February 12 2004 15:39 EST
- in response to qlfon qlfon
IMHO the biggest problem for SUN is Look and Feel, all the time they want to invent something better then MS, APPLE, etc. and based on the past experience it didnt really work out for them, nevertheless they continue to push their L&F all the time and everywhere.
Either make it better then other vendors provide or accept their L&F. in my opinion the NB has the worst UI not just L&F that I ever seen.
Why someone should have uniform but bad UI on every platform except of having different but good. -
Native vs. Cross-platform L&F[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Wilson
- Posted on: February 12 2004 18:59 EST
- in response to Vladimir Goncharov
While I do feel there is a place for cross-platform look and feel, it isn't where we've decided to go with NetBeans. We spent a lot of time talking to developers and they want their IDE to blend into the native platform. That's exactly why we've spent so much effort to adopt the native platform L&F on Windows and Mac for this release. If you haven't looked at NetBeans lately please do take a peek at some of the screenshots linked above. I think you'll be pleasently surprised!
-Steve
Steve Wilson
Engineering Director
NetBeans Technology
Sun Microsystems -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Smythe
- Posted on: February 12 2004 04:17 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
Hope they fixed all the bugs! And Mysterious NullPointerExceptions when you try to de everyday stuff! If your IDE is buggy whats the point (i.e. they are supposed to make us more productive).
Cheers
Smythe -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Henrique Steckelberg
- Posted on: February 12 2004 05:23 EST
- in response to Smythe
Hope they fixed all the bugs! And Mysterious NullPointerExceptions when you try to de everyday stuff! If your IDE is buggy whats the point (i.e. they are supposed to make us more productive).
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> Cheers
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> Smythe
In case you didn't notice this is a beta release, thus it is completely ok to run into bugs. Now if you were talking about a previous production release, then it is a different story... ;)
Regards,
Henrique Steckelberg -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Smythe
- Posted on: February 12 2004 09:54 EST
- in response to Henrique Steckelberg
<rant>
Yeah I know its a beta release. So it is bound to have bugs. I was refferring to 3.5.1. Its very unstable and throws the occasional NullPointerException ?!.
<rant/>
;-)
Cheers
Smythe... -
Are there any plans to improve the auto-complete engine?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Behrang Saeedzadeh
- Posted on: February 12 2004 10:49 EST
- in response to Smythe
Are there any plans to improve the current (almost unusable) auto-complete engine the NetBeans does have currently?
It's not scope sensitive. You'll see all the classes that NetBeans is aware of them. It doesn't matter if they're really imported or not. Does anybody know if there are any plans to improve it? It really sucks... Ugh... -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nguyen Anh Tuan
- Posted on: February 12 2004 20:31 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
I installed NetBeans 3.6 Beta in my home's PC, it worked well but in my office's PC, throught some Next steps ;-), it can only Back or Cancel when show "Import Information". Holy shit! -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nguyen Anh Tuan
- Posted on: February 12 2004 20:34 EST
- in response to Nguyen Anh Tuan
Sorry, "Important Information" -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ajith Joseph
- Posted on: February 12 2004 20:56 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
This is awesome. On windows XP it works like a charm while Eclipse freezes for several seconds too often on XP. Well done. -
NetBeans 3.6 Updated and Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Miles Woodroffe
- Posted on: February 13 2004 00:57 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
UI is a huge improvement, very responsive on XP. been using this for a few days with no real problems yet. the change in the editor tab layout makes much better use of the screen real estate
big thumbs up to the netbeans team -
Thank You[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Wilson
- Posted on: February 13 2004 16:59 EST
- in response to Steve Wilson
Thanks everyone for posting your feedback. Ir's very much appreciated, and I ensure the NB team is reading every bit. We'll do our best to incorporate all your suggestions into the forthcoming 3.6 and 4.0. Releases.
Thanks again,
-Steve
Steve Wilson
Engineering Director
Developer Platforms
Sun Microsystems