BEA has announced the general availability of Tuxedo 9.0, the newest version of their high-end transaction manager. Tuxedo is designed to provide transaction management for C, C++, and COBOL, and integrates with BEA's AquaLogic platform.
According to BEA, "The BEA Tuxedo system is analogous to a Service Request Broker (SRB) and provides a service-oriented infrastructure for efficiently routing, dispatching, and managing requests, events, and application queues across BEA Tuxedo processes and applications."
Weblogic integration is provided via a WebLogic Tuxedo Connector, which supports full transaction and security propagation between BEA Tuxedo’s C, C++, and COBOL applications and BEA WebLogic Server and Platform J2EE tools and applications - but doesn't support delegated transactions.
Have you encountered Tuxedo in your deployment environments? What is your opinion of it? How might the lack of delegated transaction support between Tuxedo and WebLogic affect you? Lastly, do you think BPEL is a better technology for integrating disparate services than an integrated container?
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BEA releases Tuxedo 9.0 (12 messages)
- Posted by: Joseph Ottinger
- Posted on: July 18 2005 12:37 EDT
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- ... and violates our copyright by Robin Boerdijk on July 18 2005 14:51 EDT
- ... and violates our copyright by Artec Inc on July 18 2005 16:02 EDT
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... and violates our copyright by Corby Page on July 18 2005 04:32 EDT
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... and violates our copyright by Bob Baller on July 18 2005 04:57 EDT
- ... and violates our copyright by Wille Faler on July 19 2005 03:09 EDT
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... and violates our copyright by Bob Baller on July 18 2005 04:57 EDT
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... and violates our copyright by Corby Page on July 18 2005 04:32 EDT
- ... and violates our copyright by Mike Perham on July 18 2005 18:01 EDT
- What happened then? by Christian Treber on July 19 2005 03:00 EDT
- ... and violates our copyright by Artec Inc on July 18 2005 16:02 EDT
- BEA releases Tuxedo 9.0 by Lorenzo Cremona on July 18 2005 19:54 EDT
- BEA releases Tuxedo 9.0 by Lorenzo Cremona on July 18 2005 19:55 EDT
- Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration? by Casual Visitor on July 19 2005 05:11 EDT
- Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration? by YOYO XXX on July 19 2005 05:35 EDT
- Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration? by Sanjeev Gupta on July 21 2005 11:28 EDT
- Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration? by YOYO XXX on July 19 2005 05:35 EDT
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... and violates our copyright[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Robin Boerdijk
- Posted on: July 18 2005 14:51 EDT
- in response to Joseph Ottinger
Apparently, BEA is developing a .NET wrapper for Tuxedo 9.0. Unfortunately, instead of being original, BEA decided to simply copy the product documentation of our DotTux product and change the copyright notice. Compare for example
http://e-docs.bea.com/tuxedo/tux90/netwrapper/adm_guide.htm
with
http://web.archive.org/web/20040714141831/www.otpsystems.com/doc/DotTux-1.0/admin/ch-intro.html
and
http://web.archive.org/web/20040714072708/www.otpsystems.com/doc/DotTux-1.0/admin/ch-install.html
They even kept the name of our DotTux installation package ("DotNeTux-1.0.0-tux90-win32.tar.gz")!
Unbelievable.
Robin Boerdijk
OTP Systems Oy
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... and violates our copyright[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Artec Inc
- Posted on: July 18 2005 16:02 EDT
- in response to Robin Boerdijk
... and, this relate to the post in?
Your company should be filing a lawsuit for copyright infringement...
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... and violates our copyright[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Corby Page
- Posted on: July 18 2005 16:32 EDT
- in response to Artec Inc
... and, this relate to the post in?
I think most anyone interested in this commercial product announcement would also be interested in knowing whether BEA is using stolen intellectual property to deliver this product. -
... and violates our copyright[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Bob Baller
- Posted on: July 18 2005 16:57 EDT
- in response to Corby Page
... and, this relate to the post in?
I think most anyone interested in this commercial product announcement would also be interested in knowing whether BEA is using stolen intellectual property to deliver this product.
And yet I don't. -
... and violates our copyright[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Wille Faler
- Posted on: July 19 2005 03:09 EDT
- in response to Bob Baller
And yet I don't.... and, this relate to the post in?
I think most anyone interested in this commercial product announcement would also be interested in knowing whether BEA is using stolen intellectual property to deliver this product.
Could that be because you are either clueless, a moron, a BEA employee or all of the above?
If there are credible allegations of copyright infringements unaddressed in a product I am about to use, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole..
However personally, I hope that this is a simple misunderstanding that will have a good explanation perhaps already in this thread. -
... and violates our copyright[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Mike Perham
- Posted on: July 18 2005 18:01 EDT
- in response to Robin Boerdijk
In all likelihood, this is simply one documentation person being lazy, not a worldwide BEA conspiracy to destroy all copyrights. Have you tried contacting BEA and politely describing the issue?Apparently, BEA is developing a .NET wrapper for Tuxedo 9.0. Unfortunately, instead of being original, BEA decided to simply copy the product documentation of our DotTux product and change the copyright notice.
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What happened then?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Christian Treber
- Posted on: July 19 2005 03:00 EDT
- in response to Robin Boerdijk
Bea seems to have pulled the page refered to by the first URL - Robin, what did Bea reply to your claims? -
BEA releases Tuxedo 9.0[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Lorenzo Cremona
- Posted on: July 18 2005 19:54 EDT
- in response to Joseph Ottinger
Joseph: My name is Lorenzo Cremona, I am the Product Marketing Director for Tuxedo at BEA. I would like to discuss this matter with you to better understand what your issues and concerns are. BEA is very diligent in what we include in our products and documentation especially relating to 3-party products. Feel free to contact me so we can schedule some time to talk. My e-mail address is lorenzo dot cremona at bea dot com. Thank you Joseph. Sincerely, Lorenzo Cremona - BEA -
BEA releases Tuxedo 9.0[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Lorenzo Cremona
- Posted on: July 18 2005 19:55 EDT
- in response to Joseph Ottinger
Robin: My name is Lorenzo Cremona, I am the Product Marketing Director for Tuxedo at BEA. I would like to discuss this matter with you to better understand what your issues and concerns are. BEA is very diligent in what we include in our products and documentation especially relating to 3-party products. Feel free to contact me so we can schedule some time to talk. My e-mail address is lorenzo dot cremona at bea dot com. Thank you Joseph. Sincerely, Lorenzo Cremona - BEA -
Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Casual Visitor
- Posted on: July 19 2005 05:11 EDT
- in response to Joseph Ottinger
Assume, you have a huge enterprise app written in C++ and want to combine the 'web stuff' in Java with it. Is 'WebLogic Tuxedo Connector' helpful? Or should you just use database tables for data exchange? -
Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: YOYO XXX
- Posted on: July 19 2005 05:35 EDT
- in response to Casual Visitor
Assume, you have a huge enterprise app written in C++ and want to combine the 'web stuff' in Java with it. Is 'WebLogic Tuxedo Connector' helpful?
If this huge enterprise C++ app. is using Tuxedo then yes.
If not then WS or CORBA or JNI would be more appropriate. -
Any experiences with Tuxedo-WebLogic integration?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Sanjeev Gupta
- Posted on: July 21 2005 11:28 EDT
- in response to YOYO XXX
Assume, you have a huge enterprise app written in C++ and want to combine the 'web stuff' in Java with it. Is 'WebLogic Tuxedo Connector' helpful?
If this huge enterprise C++ app. is using Tuxedo then yes.If not then WS or CORBA or JNI would be more appropriate.
I don't think it's that easy to decide. If the enterprise app isn't built on any middleware, moving it to something like Tuxedo may be a good long term strategy. Then integrating with the web is straight foward given the WebLogic Tuxedo Connector, WebLogic WorkShop, and the rest.
I also would shudder to suggest JNI for enterprise applications and a J2EE appserver as that is a very fragile solution and fraught with problems. I don't see how CORBA or WS help, unless the existing enterprise app is already using those technologies. True, an integration layer could be built using those technologies, but the same can be said of Tuxedo and the WebLogic Tuxedo Connector.