Hi,
JRun team is conducting a survey to get the users' feedback. This feedback will be very valuable in deciding features for the next JRun release (codenamed - Cheetah). The survey is available at:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=668831359384
The survey is very concise and will take 5 minutes to fill in. If you'd like to have a say in the next version of JRun? Do you think these types of surveys are useful in helping get the features that you would like to see or are in need of be implemented?
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JRun Survey (13 messages)
- Posted by: Rajendra Khokher
- Posted on: October 10 2005 07:17 EDT
Threaded Messages (13)
- JRun Survey by Will Hartung on October 10 2005 16:33 EDT
- JRun Survey by Matt Giacomini on October 10 2005 17:08 EDT
- JRun rock(s|ed)! by Rias A. Sherzad on October 11 2005 02:52 EDT
- JRun rock(s|ed)! by graham o'regan on October 11 2005 05:56 EDT
- JRun rock(s|ed)! by Marina Prikaschikova on October 11 2005 08:16 EDT
- JRun discussion thread at macromedia.com by Sean Sullivan on October 10 2005 17:16 EDT
- JRun Survey by Wei Jiang on October 10 2005 18:06 EDT
- Wow by Lyndon Samson on October 10 2005 18:50 EDT
- JRun 4 kernel arch. inspired by JBoss more than anything by Scott Stirling on October 14 2005 09:52 EDT
- JRun Survey by Michael Finger on October 11 2005 13:11 EDT
- JRun Survey by Dong Nai on October 12 2005 21:44 EDT
- JRUN - ColdFusion MX container by George Daswani on October 13 2005 02:38 EDT
- Cheetah : Beta Available by Vijayan Reddy on May 03 2006 14:08 EDT
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JRun Survey[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Will Hartung
- Posted on: October 10 2005 16:33 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
This is interesting on a number of levels.
Back In The Day, at my old company we used JRun for our application, and had generally good results with it. It was simply a servlet/JSP container at the time. Heck, we didn't even have WARs at the time. But it was easily accessible, affordable, and we encountered few "JRun" bugs that I can recall. I haven't tried their EJB container, I have heard anecdotally that it has had some problems.
But running JRun back then was the fruition of the promise of what Java is today.
When we started that project, we were running against Netscape's server and container, and we were getting inexplicable server freeze ups and little help from Netscape support. Due to time pressures, rather than fighting Netscape support, we instead took a day to port to Apache/Tomcat, and then later JRun on Solaris.
Later, we had the system running on JRun on Windows.
So, even at the young age, we had a server application that survived literally unscathed from three different application servers across two different OS's and databases (we had to port from Oracle to SQL Server as well). And we did that kind of porting in "internet time" as they said.
What's interesting about this survey is that it shows that Macromedia/Adobe is still in this middle market, even with the pressures from below by Tomcat, JBoss, and Sun, as well as from above by IBM and BEA, and the plethora of other application servers.
So, I hope this survey is simply an indicator at the overall health and size of the Java Application server market as a whole. -
JRun Survey[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Matt Giacomini
- Posted on: October 10 2005 17:08 EDT
- in response to Will Hartung
But it was easily accessible, affordable, and we encountered few "JRun" bugs that I can recall.
I had the same expirence.
I used to work for Pilot Networks and we hosted a few thousand General Electric Web servers. They went out of business shortly after the .com bubble burst. Anyway. They used a combination of Jrun, Netscape Application Server, and some JServ. I have to say at the time Jrun was far and above the others in performance and stability. I have not used the product since Macromedia bought it, but it seems to have lost its reputation over time. Anyone know why? -
JRun rock(s|ed)![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Rias A. Sherzad
- Posted on: October 11 2005 02:52 EDT
- in response to Will Hartung
I made the same experience with JRun.
There were no other decent application servers available - and back then JRun was ahead of pretty much any other piece of software that called itself "application server".
There were a few bugs but the server startup was pretty fast and performance was also not bad. In combination with our favourite IDE ("KAWA") we were able to deliver a couple of powerful applications. Too bad they gave up (slowed down?) the development of JRun...
Rias A. Sherzad
sherzad.com -
JRun rock(s|ed)![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: graham o'regan
- Posted on: October 11 2005 05:56 EDT
- in response to Rias A. Sherzad
we had the same experience...it had the best management GUI by miles and version 4 was pretty reliable. We used v3 for a few years which was basically the old allaire server and we had loads of problems with it, but they rewrote it for v4 and it was a much better tool.
the paid support was good too, they were always prompt and courteous in response to any problems. good to see they haven't given up on jrun, i thought they had dropped the ball and weren't going to try and support the new j2ee specs. -
JRun rock(s|ed)![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Marina Prikaschikova
- Posted on: October 11 2005 08:16 EDT
- in response to Rias A. Sherzad
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JRun discussion thread at macromedia.com[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Sean Sullivan
- Posted on: October 10 2005 17:16 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
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JRun Survey[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Wei Jiang
- Posted on: October 10 2005 18:06 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
I think JRun should build new versions based on Geronimo.
What they should do is to provider a nicer GUI and management
tool. Optimize it on managing and performance.
Wei Jiang
Perfecting Java EE! -
Wow[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Lyndon Samson
- Posted on: October 10 2005 18:50 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
What a shock, the way its was de-emphasized on the web site ( post takerovers etc ) I was sure it was scheduled for termination.
And here it is, with resources allocated!
Jrun's kernel architecture has some similarities with Geronimos GBean design. Although I haven't seen any in depth articles comparing them I wondered if it was in any way an inspiration. -
JRun 4 kernel arch. inspired by JBoss more than anything[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Scott Stirling
- Posted on: October 14 2005 09:52 EDT
- in response to Lyndon Samson
JRun 4 was originally hoped to be based on JBoss. The LGPL raised some dicey conflicts with the Sun license at the time, and Sun hadn't figured out what to do about open sourced J2EE servers and J2EE certification. So what resulted was a very JBoss-like implementation, using a microkernel design for the server with services plugged in as JMX MBeans. -
JRun Survey[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Michael Finger
- Posted on: October 11 2005 13:11 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
Until recently I worked for a company that uses JRun - they needed a servlet container that wasn't open source (due to marketing/sales reasons) and was cheap.. We didn't need all the bells and whistles and costs associated with them. JRun worked fine and did what it was supposed too. -
JRun Survey[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Dong Nai
- Posted on: October 12 2005 21:44 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
Has Many Years to Go
I've been with JRun since it was Live Software. It was good then when other Java Application servers are complex and expensive such as Netscape, WebLogic, GemStone, Websphere. It has the place in history and I still believe it has many years to go since there still is a market for it. Companies that don't want to spend their budgets on expensive servers and support and companies that don't want to take the opensource road. -
JRUN - ColdFusion MX container[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: George Daswani
- Posted on: October 13 2005 02:38 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
It doesn't make sense for Adobe/Macromedia to terminate JRUN Development..
Coldfusion MX depends on it (CFMX 6, and 7).. The Enterprise Edition (CFMX 7 MultiServer) actually run ontop JRUN 4.. There's a lot of ColdFusion installations out there, probably more so than JRUN.. -
Cheetah : Beta Available[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Vijayan Reddy
- Posted on: May 03 2006 14:08 EDT
- in response to Rajendra Khokher
Next Version Adobe JRun : Beta Available
Beta release of next version of JRun appserver, code named Cheetah, is available. Adobe JRun Team is inviting serious evaluators to give feedback on this beta release. Contact 'vrreddy at adobe dot com' to be included in the Beta program.
We believe Beta of JRun Cheetah is reasonably stable and reliable. And we plan to reward those who prove otherwise. We intend to give away fully functional JRun licenses to the users who report highest quality issues during the Beta.
What More ! We are throwing open a JRun Sample Apps Challenge. We invite the beta users to develop sample applications exploiting the new JRun Cheetah feature sets. The best apps developed by you will be rewarded, and on qualification, will be featured as part JRun releases in samples section.
Write Code, find Bugs ! Help us serve you better.
Regards,
Vijayan Reddy,
Adobe JRun Team.