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News: IntelliJ IDEA 7 reaches 2nd milestone: Groovy, DSM

  1. IntelliJ IDEA 7.0 has reached Milestone 2. JetBrains announces Free IntelliJ IDEA 7.0 Upgrade Program. The most notable highlights of this release:
    • Groovy and Grails plug-in
    • Dependency Structure Matrix
    • Spring AOP and Spring-Hibernate integration
    • Better version control with offline Perforce and ClearCase UCM
    • Performance, usability and user interface improvements
    • Built-in support for TestNG, Maven and more
    Also, JetBrains is glad to announce the Free IntelliJ IDEA 7.0 Upgrade Program. Buy an IntelliJ IDEA 6.0 license before the end of 2007 and get all IntelliJ IDEA 7 Milestone releases for commercial use, plus upgrade for free to IntelliJ IDEA 7.0! Watch new features in the live action voice demos. Read the full story and download the fresh build here: IntelliJ IDEA 7

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  2. Yay, I love IDEA
  3. Yay, I love IDEA
    how different is it from what eclipse provides ? And eclipse is free !!! Ofcourse there are hardcore users of every IDE and everyone has their liking etc. So i m not saying IDEA is bad.. just want to know what is it that IDEA still has a huge number of folks liking it even if there is a competition from a FREE & awesome tool eclipse.
  4. competition from Eclipse? that's a joke, right?
  5. Because it is superior in every way possible. I've used both extensively and found that eclipse hampers development while idea enhances it - in much the same way emacs used to. fu#%@ eclipse...fu-$% it right in its big fat bloated keyboard hating face.. =p
    So i m not saying IDEA is bad.. just want to know what is it that IDEA still has a huge number of folks liking it even if there is a competition from a FREE & awesome tool eclipse.
  6. I've used both extensively and found that eclipse hampers development while idea enhances it - in much the same way emacs used to.
    It might be the opposite for a person used to Eclipse and move to IDEA. Few people would say I love Eclipse, because Eclipse users are so abundant and it looks funny to say that. On the other hand, IDEA users are scarce, therefore, have the "privilege" to say I love IDEA.
  7. Does it really look silly? Maybe there just really aren't any eclipse users who love eclipse perhaps? I sure as sh#$ didn't love it while I was using it. it "just was" It wasn't until I started using IDEA that I started to hate eclipse. I don't think giving my opinion is a rare "privilege". I know software development / UI development pretty well now and don't ever really find myself b.s'ing anyone. IDEA is 10x better and that is just common knowledge.
    Few people would say I love Eclipse, because Eclipse users are so abundant and it looks funny to say that. On the other hand, IDEA users are scarce, therefore, have the "privilege" to say I love IDEA.
  8. I've used both extensively and found that eclipse hampers development while idea enhances it - in much the same way emacs used to.


    It might be the opposite for a person used to Eclipse and move to IDEA.

    Few people would say I love Eclipse, because Eclipse users are so abundant and it looks funny to say that. On the other hand, IDEA users are scarce, therefore, have the "privilege" to say I love IDEA.
    Besides, the number item I hear from eclipse users is that it is free, not that it is good.
  9. I've used both extensively and found that eclipse hampers development while idea enhances it - in much the same way emacs used to.


    It might be the opposite for a person used to Eclipse and move to IDEA.

    Few people would say I love Eclipse, because Eclipse users are so abundant and it looks funny to say that. On the other hand, IDEA users are scarce, therefore, have the "privilege" to say I love IDEA.
    Humbly don't agree. I remember starting to use IDEA 2.6 out of curiosity. I thought it could read my mind and offer the right suggestions at the right time! And simply following the tips at startup you can become an adept IDEA user.
  10. So i m not saying IDEA is bad.. just want to know what is it that IDEA still has a huge number of folks liking it even if there is a competition from a FREE & awesome tool eclipse.
    Easy: iPod vs other mp3 players. They both do the same thing, just one is a pleasure to use :) One correction... Eclipse is a tool that is FREE and Great. Intellij is a tool that is a Great Value and Awesome.
  11. +1
  12. Free![ Go to top ]

    Buying Idea is an investment that returns many times its cost. Not everything in life is free, are you ?
  13. Yay, I love IDEA

    how different is it from what eclipse provides ? And eclipse is free !!!

    Ofcourse there are hardcore users of every IDE and everyone has their liking etc. So i m not saying IDEA is bad.. just want to know what is it that IDEA still has a huge number of folks liking it even if there is a competition from a FREE & awesome tool eclipse.
    Well, it is free and has some good plugins. I think GWT Designer is excellent, but frankly, I don't care for Eclipse. There is nothing wrong with investing in a tool that makes you more productive. If Eclipse worked well for me, being free, it could win me over. But I think Idea "feels" better and that feel is worth paying for. That's why some purchase a Focus and others a BMW. Both are cars, right?
  14. Have you added the support for Spring 2 Namespaces in this milestone release? http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEADEV-16798 Steve
  15. Spring 2 'p' namespace[ Go to top ]

    Spring 2 'p' namespace is supported in Intellij IDEA 7 M2
  16. IntelliJ IDEA is the best IDE for developers. I think Eclipse is more suite for the IDE provider.
  17. I really love IDEA. Esp. the code refactoring capabilities and the vast amount of code intentions and live checks are superb and helped me very much to improve my coding significantly. It's really great! For my taste JetBrains are trying to integrate to many new "hip" buzzwords in their new product versions. It's already a really awesome tool and I'd rather love to see a few nagging issues resolved (charset encoding on project level, easy overview navigation to superclass-methods), but that's just my personal opinion. Nevertheless it's unquestionable the leading IDE class in the java sector! In comparison to Eclipse I can only say: I'm jealousy on the eclipse users for their Ctrl-O,O and the live-compilation based code repository approach, but I'd never like to miss: Great module support, superb code intentions and code completion in Java,XML,ant,JSP,... the huge amount of great refactorings, built-in SVN support, Nice and clean UI, reliably working great debugger, the great customizable code formatter (with many "keep as is" settings!) .... Try! Learn the key shortcuts, get addicted and Buy! (just a fan's note ;-))
  18. A Great Product, But...[ Go to top ]

    I have no problem with Eclipse, but I love IDEA and find it vastly superior to Eclipse and generating massive ROI. However, I had a couple of big problems with the current version. First, the documentation isn't up-to-date. I know we developers hate documentation and avoid it like the plague, but when you are making a product, it has to be there. Second, the way you set up Project and Global Libraries became completely unintuitive after version 5. I find myself able to sort of reason it out after playing with it for a while, but I would think it would be easy to define a library and add it at the project level...or to define a library and add it at the global level for subsequent addition at the project level where appropriate. Besides that, I love IDEA! P.S. Can we look forward to Seam support similar to the Spring support in this upcoming version? Or at least a Seam IDE plugin from somebody?
  19. Re: A Great Product, But...[ Go to top ]



    Second, the way you set up Project and Global Libraries became completely unintuitive after version 5. I find myself able to sort of reason it out after playing with it for a while, but I would think it would be easy to define a library and add it at the project level...or to define a library and add it at the global level for subsequent addition at the project level where appropriate.
    I totally agree with you there.
  20. Whatever! I find IDEA's library management far superior to that of Eclipse. I always get frustrated adding source and javadoc locations to each and every jar that I add to a library. Also, the XML Catalog of Eclipse is cumbersome.
  21. As to Seam support[ Go to top ]

    You are welcome to share your ideas for Seam support in IDEA forum (e.g. http://www.intellij.net/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=22) and JIRA (http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA) Btw, IDEA helps editing Seam xhtml files when .xhtml mapped to JSPX filetype
  22. Re:Seam support[ Go to top ]

    P.S. Can we look forward to Seam support similar to the Spring support in this upcoming version? Or at least a Seam IDE plugin from somebody?
    Are you joking? It's already there. As far as I've seen only Intellij provides : - code completion for JSF ELs inside Facelets *.xhtml files and templates based on Seam's annotations ! - Jboss SEAM Extended EL syntax completion and compile-time validation - Ctrl+Click on "#{byMean.property}" brings you to the getter definition - Ctrl+Click on "#{myAction.changeSomethingTo('NewValue')" brings you to the method definition - tag names and attributes completion inside facelets files Also, I found it quite simple to configure the output of POJO classed to /WEB-INF/dev for hot-swap of changed POJOs (yes, class structure change is supported here by seam) However, I had some difficultied to discover all those things and I'd suggest IDEA to present a video tutorial for SEAM support. Vitaliy
  23. so I've been an IDEA user for the past 4-5 years and have mainly loved it. There are a couple of things though that are starting to annoy me and have made me consider switching. Since IDEA 5 performance has been getting worse and worse while my computers have been getting more powerful. Also I have been getting flaky behavior with crashing a lot especially on large projects. I feel like each version is getting progressively worse in that regard. I remember loving the way IDEA 3 was just so responsive and snappy. That's certainly not the case today. Secondly I'm starting to wonder about the viability of a proprietary closed source platform for a technologist over time. Basically I understand that JetBrains has limited resources and for each version they have to pick a technology of the day to support (ruby, groovy, spring, hibernate, etc). But those choices are never always going to be my choices. For example I want to work on a Scala project right now but IDEA does not support it particularly well (the current plugin is incomplete and JetBrains appears to have deprioritized it). As a result I have to use Eclipse and I've noticed that this is a pattern I consistently see as new technologies and platforms emerge (radrails came way before rails support in IDEA). Project creators make plugins for Eclipse because it's free and open source and just about everybody uses. IDEA users end up having to wait or to build the plugins themselves. Recently as the pace of language innovation accelerates I find that neither of those options are acceptable. I really wish that plugins were 'cross-platform' as it were... It seems like language developers should be able to provide language support automatically across all IDEs. In the end Eclipse and IDEA are more than just java IDEs, and as they become more extensible the more they look like an Operating System. I mean how many of you wish that your whole system was an IDEA project? I certainly do. Finding files, editing them, or running them, with automatic versioning. It would be awesome. And it begs the question, do you want a closed platform OS? I dunno. Maybe I'm thinking too big. But it feels better than powerlessly begging for Scala support on the forums.
  24. Vendor competition[ Go to top ]

    Oh, yeah, I wonder where did that JSR on standardization of plugins go? It's JSR 198 and it released a spec about year and a half ago. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=198 It was speraheaded by Oracle, so they support it. NetBeans support is promised: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/standards/jsr198/index.html Is that enough to reach critical mass? Would Eclipse get on board? But maybe you're right, and even without critical mass reached by this JSR in the marketplace, IntelliJ still needs this to get access to plugins available for Oracle JDeveloper... and (soon?), NetBeans.
  25. JSR 198[ Go to top ]

    Are there any major third-party plugins based on this API? We haven't yet seen much real demand for JSR 198 support.
  26. Re: JSR 198[ Go to top ]

    Are there any major third-party plugins based on this API?
    No.
    We haven't yet seen much real demand for JSR 198 support.
    It would be good enough to have a "Eclipse Plugin Importer" :-)
  27. Re: JSR 198[ Go to top ]

    It would be good enough to have a "Eclipse Plugin Importer" :-)
    And Have a lot of Bugy Plugins (wow, near to poetic) to tear down my beloved IntelliJ IDEA??? I wrote a plugin for IntelliJ and the API are pretty solid, very obscure, but pretty solid. All we need is more documentation for the Plugin System, I'll be write my own tutorial
  28. Re: JSR 198[ Go to top ]

    And Have a lot of Bugy Plugins (wow, near to poetic) to tear down my beloved IntelliJ IDEA???
    Don't worry. The "Blame the naughty Plugin Hint" is already there :-))
  29. ...In the end Eclipse and IDEA are more than just java IDEs, and as they become more extensible the more they look like an Operating System. I mean how many of you wish that your whole system was an IDEA project?...
    Patrick, Sounds like you want Smalltalk.
  30. Not so simple for me ....[ Go to top ]

    "Also, I found it quite simple to configure the output of POJO classed to /WEB-INF/dev for hot-swap of changed POJOs (yes, class structure change is supported here by seam)" Can you provide me with information how to do it? Thanks in advance
  31. First time user experience[ Go to top ]

    Hi I always read good reviews about the IDEA and yesterday I thought of trying this IDE. There are few challenges that I face as a starter or mover from Weblogic Workshop/Eclipse 1) In Java EE Module under Java EE: Structure for Web Module when I right click then it does not shows up an option to add the module 2) There is no x button to close the windows 3) When again I right click on the module name to show the property selection then it does have that So there are few things that I am used to but it was done in IDEA in a different way. Anyhow after using it for few minutes I was able to figure out How-To. Also the most important thing that I was happy with is that it was really fast as compared to Eclipse and Weblogic and memory footprint was also low I will use it more to learn it benefits Thanks, Shabbir
  32. Re: First time user experience[ Go to top ]

    2) There is no x button to close the windows
    Click in the Tab Title with the MouseWheel Button By the Way, IMHO Selena(7.0) will be the best IntelliJ Version
    1. The 'alt-enter' auto import feature. Can NetBeans and Eclipse do the same? I really hope they can and I am just clueless on this. If they cannot, then they are truly brain dead for not implementing it.
    2. Idea's 'shift-enter' statement punctuation completion feature. It's just stupid to have to press 'end', ';' over and over and over.
    3. Why no Tip-of-the-day feature in NetBeans and Eclipse? Both NetBeans and Eclipse seems not very thoughtful to new user. They just want you to read the Help and their help are massive. Idea's help is short and easy to understand.
    4. Why Eclipse workspace? Seems like a pointless concept especially when you can have project located outside of workspace anyway.
    5. Why in NetBeans new project must start from an empty directory? I could make it just 'inhabit' some existing code. I just want to start using NetBeans on it. I end up creating a new project and copy files into it.
    6. How come NetBeans cannot figure out a class is a JUnit test case? How can I make it realize that?
  33. slow[ Go to top ]

    I came from Eclipse environment. The first impression I found when using IDEA 6 is the slow reponsiveness and the time it takes to open and close a relatively large project. After the IDEA is open for sometime, it may become so inrresponsive to the point it is not workable. It has to be restarted. Other good things about Eclipse is its incremental compiler and its smart type detection for closing bracket automatically.
  34. Re: slow[ Go to top ]

    I came from Eclipse environment. The first impression I found when using IDEA 6 is the slow reponsiveness and the time it takes to open and close a relatively large project. After the IDEA is open for sometime, it may become so inrresponsive to the point it is not workable. It has to be restarted.

    Other good things about Eclipse is its incremental compiler and its smart type detection for closing bracket automatically.
    I suspect that you didn't alter the vm settings for Idea.
  35. Not so slow anymore[ Go to top ]

    We paid a lot of attention to performance when developing version 7, and it should be considerably more responsive than the previous version.
  36. It is fast![ Go to top ]

    We paid a lot of attention to performance when developing version 7, and it should be considerably more responsive than the previous version.
    It is fast :-) Make it easier to change the ide's VM and the VM settings. Add a Grabage Collection analyzer plugin. (See http://www.tagtraum.com/gcviewer.html)
  37. Re: It is fast![ Go to top ]

    It is fast :-)
    It is never fast enough, keep on!