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MyEclipse 7 Released
Genuitec announced two major, production-level releases today: MyEclipse 7.0 and MyEclipse 7.0 Blue Edition. As a special offer to TSS readers, Genuitec is offering 7 free licenses of the product to developers who comment in this thread with honest feedback about how MyEclipse and Blue have affected their development process.
Download MyEclipse 7.0 now!
Both releases, built upon Eclipse 3.4.1/Ganymede, claim to deliver the most comprehensive environment for Ajax and Web Services in the Eclipse space. For example, MyEclipse users will now be able to create/test/debug simple REST Web Services in about two minutes.
Both 7.0 releases include new support for or upgrades to:
- Advanced JavaScript tooling
- New Plugin Dashboard
- REST Web Services wizards and explorer
- MyEclipse Spring tools
- OpenJPA support for MyEclipse Persistence tools
- MyEclipse Reports upgrade
- UML1, UML2 upgrades
- New JSF views and enhancements
- MyEclipse ICEfaces tooling update
- much more!
New & Noteworthy
Download
MyEclipse 7.0 Standard and Professional Editions and MyEclipse 7.0 Blue Edition are available for immediate download. Products are affordably priced at $30, $60 and $149, respectively.
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Message #282165
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
I started to use MyEclipse about 2 years ago. I had to do a quick prototype that included a Swing app. Using the WYSIWYG editor in MyEclipse was a life saver as I had almost zero experience with Swing. My next project involved the entire team so I recommended it and we purchased 10 licenses. We were about to undertake a project involving our first usage of Hibernate, Spring and xFire. Having the wizards in MyEclipse allowed us to come up to speed quickly. We wouldn't have completed the project when we did if we didn't have that acceleration provided by the wizards.
Highly recommend that you check out MyEclipse..
Thanks
Gary
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Message #282167
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
This is very good news, congratulations to the entire Genuitec team!
I have been using MyEclipse since late 2003 as my daily tool. The advantage MyEclipse gave back then compared to manually compiling classes and wrapping them up for deployment was rather huge. JSP debugging, when it was introduced, has been a real life saver too. No more out.println's, but simply stepping through the code was so much better (yeah, JSPs should not contain Java code, but we just happened to have such JSPs).
Another important thing that MyEclipse has always done right, is the hot deployment feature. The ability to change code during or right after a debugging session and then reload a page to see the changes being reflected immediately has been a very important benefit for us. Technically it seems not that complicated to do this right, so I'm not really sure why this never really worked in some other products.
A more recent feature of MyEclipse that's quite nice is the build-in Tomcat. This means new users can very easily start typing some simple code and just run it instantly (A build-in Jboss or Glassfish would be rather cool too here, since it would offer the entire Java EE stack right away, but maybe that's not that interesting for beginners).
Not everything has been perfect though. The validation of JSP/JSF pages is still somewhat lacking. It can be slow and has always flagged warnings or even errors for some things that are 100% correct (like dynamic attributes on jsp custom tags, or XML fragments as the body of a jsp custom tag). There is also still the weird sudden extreme slowness right after you start a JSP comment (<%--). Typing becomes very slow after that and sometimes requires me to close and reopen the page.
Other than that, after some 5 years of usage, I still like the product and overall it just works. Nowadays I barely notice it's there anymore, which means it almost never gets in my way ;)
(oh, and I don't really need to apply for a free license since I of course already have one ;))
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Message #282168
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More effective and efficient with myeclipse
MyEclipse is a all-in-one plug-in for java developers, we can design java programs effectively and efficiently. The MyEclipse free us away from the most ducky and boring process, we just focus on the deep issues in the domain--biz logic.
It is a easy and happy process to program with MyEclipse.
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Message #282169
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Not everything is perfect
Hi,
of course MyEclipse has several advantages as already mentioned by prior posts. It integrates several plug-ins in a good way. But there are also some aspects that are a bit poor in MyEclipse:
- GUI-Builder: Using matisse from netbeans is a good choice. I like matisse and using it within Eclipse would be great. But the integration till now wasn't perfect yet.
Additionally, I'd like to see some more functionality regarding SWT (Matisse4SWT?) and JavaFX. With the 1.0 release of JavaFX it would be nice to have an IDE that adds some tooling support for this language. MyEclipse is an ideal platform for this.
- UML: With MyEclipse 7 UML2 seems to be supported in a much better way than in previous releases. This was one of the biggest weaknesses. UML modelling is very important in my area, but I am curious about testing it with MyEclipse 7.
- JSF: MyEclipse is one of the first IDEs I know, where you can easily develop JSF applications. If you only have an plain Eclipse it is not easy to get it working. But the visual editor could be improved a bit. But here again, MyEclipse 7 seems to do this better now.
Thus, MyEclipse is a nice IDE, making developing working. You don't have to install a lot of plug-ins first. But there are also several things that could be enhanced or improved in the future. MyEclipse 7 seems to do some steps in the right direction.
Greetings
Mike
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Message #282170
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MyEclipse is amazing tool
I have been using My eclipse in my company for past 3 years. It helps us to do rapid application development. Especially when it comes to code hot deployments, its really useful.
Our application is really huge, If we need to restart the application server, it's going to consume more time..
All those things are made simple with the help of this My eclpise magic.
Thanks,
Vinoth
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Message #282171
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Myeclipse is useful
I have been using MYEclipse since 2004.
I initially evaluated it for a large migration project
and it really increased out teams productivity.
We initially used the xdoclet integration for Struts and Web config generation. We also used the deploy and debug
features to debug our web applications on Tomcat.
Currently we make extensive use of the terrific JPA and Spring code generation features.
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Message #282172
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Matisse
I've been using MyEclipse since 5.5. I won't say it's changed my life, but it's true it features some really interesting stuff. The reason we adopted it was Matisse4MyEclipse. It's a great swing graphic editor.
It's also a great all-in-one. The price is really competitive, so being able to have a full ide out of the box is great. Eclipse has too many distributions, you usually have to install several plugins before being able to work. MyEclipse saves you that time (keep in mind plugin conflicts).
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Message #282176
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
Sounds like a very nice update on the standard Eclipse which i use now.
Especially the Spring tools sound interesting and the JavaScript tooling.
Seeing the good feedback here i will give it a try.
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Message #282177
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Great!
I have been using Eclipse for ages. I was the first in my firm to change to Eclipse, everybody was developing with jBuilder. But when they saw how is it, and who easy is to develop with, everybody decided to change. Since then, the best choice is Eclipse.
but when I discovered MyEclipse 2 years ago, This is the definitely solution to improve your software.
And with low-cost.
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Message #282182
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MyEclipse 7 favored by (non-existent?) Newbies
This is the most pathetic form of advertising I have seen on TSS so far. Look at the number of posts the users have that advertise MyEclipse. Either only newbies use MyEclipse or these comments are fake.
I do not bear a grudge against Genuitec (apart from the fact they make crappy, useless buggy software) but I think it is pretty annoying if companies tries to sell their product by making up these phony succes/could-not-do-without-it stories.
Best regards
Felix
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Message #282184
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Re: MyEclipse 7 favored by (non-existent?) Newbies
This is the most pathetic form of advertising I have seen on TSS so far. Look at the number of posts the users have that advertise MyEclipse. Either only newbies use MyEclipse or these comments are fake.
I do not bear a grudge against Genuitec (apart from the fact they make crappy, useless buggy software) but I think it is pretty annoying if companies tries to sell their product by making up these phony succes/could-not-do-without-it stories.
Best regards
Felix
Felix,
Thanks for your thoughts. MyEclipse may not be right for you, and that's perfectly ok. However, rest assured that none of the comment posts originate with Genuitec and are the expression of the authors only.
As for the "useless buggy software" comment... well, you are entitled to that opinion, of course.
But, over one million MyEclipse users may disagree with you.
Have you tried MyEclipse recently to see if you are missing out?
Best,
Jens
MyEclipse
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Message #282185
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Not enough tools to justify cost > free
I have bought a license around 2003 and used it.
I liked how it made my life easier but since callisto there has not been any features that were soo much better that I felt the need to keep paying to have them. Since then, ever version of elipse gets better and there are enough free plug ins out there that they satisfy all my needs.
I like to do stuff manually. Sure GUI struts designers are nice but they never work once you get past the stage of trivial applicaions and you resort to hand writing xml or annotations anyway. Perhaps i can try it again and see if the new version has something truly worthwile to offer.
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Message #282186
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Re: Not enough tools to justify cost > free
I have bought a license around 2003 and used it.
I liked how it made my life easier but since callisto there has not been any features that were soo much better that I felt the need to keep paying to have them. Since then, ever version of elipse gets better and there are enough free plug ins out there that they satisfy all my needs.
I like to do stuff manually. Sure GUI struts designers are nice but they never work once you get past the stage of trivial applicaions and you resort to hand writing xml or annotations anyway. Perhaps i can try it again and see if the new version has something truly worthwile to offer.
Martin,
If you would like to get another trial version, I would be happy to give you access. Just drop me a note at jensATgenuitec.com if you have any issues acquiring it. We're always interested in honest feedback on the product, and I would like to hear your experiences with 7.0.
Best,
Jens
MyEclipse
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Message #282187
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Posting Ambiguous and MyEclipse "meh"
When read in a certain way, the second sentence seems to imply that developers offering "honest feedback" about MyEclipse gets 7 free licenses; I would assume someone is going to be picking 7 commenters to bestow these licenses upon?
Regarding MyEclipse, I've never personally been too impressed with it. I had a need for a good Swing builder a while back; being an Eclipse user, I made sure to download MyEclipse with Matisse and try it out. Well, the fact that it curiously failed to cleanly work with Java6 killed it for me--sure, it's a relatively small issue, but that sort of "almost there" functionality seems to permeate the product.
Another instance: we use Rational Application Developer where I work and would really like to move to a plain Eclipse setup, or as close as we can get. We've downloaded each demo version of the Blue Edition, but none seem smart enough to grok our projects--and it's not like we're doing 'advanced' stuff (e.g. EJBs, IBM-specific-stuff, etc), just an EAR with one WAR and a number of projects being built into the lib directory. Sigh.
Perhaps this release is better, but given my past experience, I won't be rushing to download a demo.
IMO, this product was much more important before the maturation of WTP, Spring IDE, and other OSS/free projects.
This all may seem pretty sour, but that's been my experience. I don't wish Genuitec any specific ill-will; heck, if this product is as awesome as the press release seems to indicate, send me a free license and, if it does live up to these promises, I'll be sure to spread the word and perhaps push for it at work.
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Message #282189
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Re: MyEclipse 7 favored by (non-existent?) Newbies
However, rest assured that none of the comment posts originate with Genuitec and are the expression of the authors only.
So they come from some PR guys at some agency. What's the difference?
The main question remains: Why do only people post favourable things about MyEclipse that have never posted here before. Either only newbies like the product or the people don't exist at all.
As for the "useless buggy software" comment... well, you are entitled to that opinion, of course.
Have you tried MyEclipse recently to see if you are missing out?
No, thanks. Been there, done that. I started with MyEclipse but moved on when I found out that core features like Hibernate Tools of MyEclipse are actually free software. It is not actually the license costs that bother me but rather the fact that Genuitec is not very open about the fact that lots in MyEclipse is actually only integrating features not actually developing...
I would always recommend JBoss Tools for JEE development, and NetBeans for Swing. There is simply not much room left for MyEclipse.
Best regards
Felix
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Message #282197
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Re: MyEclipse 7 favored by (non-existent?) Newbies
However, rest assured that none of the comment posts originate with Genuitec and are the expression of the authors only.
So they come from some PR guys at some agency. What's the difference?
Well, you seem to be determined that there is something shady going on. Perhaps some of these commenters are posting for the first time because they want a free MyEclipse license. And as a side note, we don't utilize a PR agency, and have not for some time. :-)
Regardless, I am glad you took the time to investigate MyEclipse and see where it may or may not fit in your development process. That is all anyone can ask from potential users. Best of luck in your endeavors.
Best,
Jens
MyEclipse
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Message #282239
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How's the Maven integration?
I looked at their new and noteworthy on their website, but didn't see much detail. I also looked at http://www.myeclipseide.com/htmlpages-func-display-pid-369.html and didn't see anything m2eclipse doesn't already provide.
What does MyEclipse provide me that regular m2eclipse doesn't?
Will it have any problems with the maven standard folder scheme? Will I have to significantly change the way I use eclipse now if I were to evaluate MyEclipse?
It like the concept of MyEclipse, but the last time I evaluated it, it didn't like my maven project structures. I may be interested in evaluating it this time around.
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Message #282263
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Re: MyEclipse 7 favored by (non-existent?) Newbies
The main question remains: Why do only people post favourable things about MyEclipse that have never posted here before. Either only newbies like the product or the people don't exist at all.
Have you actually clicked on my name? -> http://www.theserverside.com/user/userthreads.tss?user_id=577382
Now I don't claim to really post a lot here, but 3 pages of posts with the first one in 2005 is a little more than 'never posted', right?
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Message #282268
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Grudging respect
I'd like to be 100% open source, but myeclipse's hot deployment feature has been too much of a time saver for the past few years. Otherwise there are many useful bundled features, such as the database explorer, that are at least as good as the open source equivalents. One thing I don't like is it seems myeclipse sometimes goes its own way from the "standards" - I develop using myeclipse but deploy using ant, sometimes the two are fighting, and I have had to work around myeclipse's built in tomcat and database. I also understand myeclipse deviated with regard to maven, but this is something that is being addressed.
I realize Genuitec is walking a tightrope, but it is important to me to know that they is contributing to open source and pursuing the future rather than trying to trap users. JEE development is still way too complex, mainly because there are too many choices in technologies, a full solution is as complex as a UNIX system to maintain with many disparate nooks and crannies. It'd be nice if myeclipse could take more of an end to end approach, while at the same time supporting different existing styles of development - for example, my app is partitioned, so I can't properly use the hibernate and spring features.
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Message #282424
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
I have been using MyEclipse for development, our development speed has gone up and also we deal with a lot maintenance projects, debugging features has made our life a lot easier
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Message #282425
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Full Rountrip Support + Profiler
Hi Jens,
Because I develop Software for embedded systems, MyEclipse is not that useful for me.
However, I would buy MyEclipse if it had one of the following features I miss from Eclipse:
- An UML Editor with full Round-Trip support (Java would suffices)
- A profiler.
Do these features belongs to the MyEclipse Roadmap? (If yes: can you give some information about a release date?)
Thanks
Daniel
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Message #282427
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Re: Grudging respect
David,
We always like to hear from customers (pro or con), thanks for taking the time to post. I'll try and address each of your points below:
>> away from standards
I *think* what you might be referring to, especially if you are building with Ant, could be MyEclipse not seeing the updated artifacts in the project after your script runs. If that's the case, try to turn on Window > Prefs > General > Workspace > "Refresh workspace automatically" -- that'll give you a much better experience with scripts generating resources in your project and ME seeing them.
>> work around ME Tomcat and Database
We just provide those there to be helpful for really fast prototyping of apps. If you don't want to use them or have your own setup, by all means you can completely ignore them. They don't use up any resources unless run and we don't want them getting in anyone's way.
>> trap users
That's exactly what we *don't* want to do. We don't want anyone trapped, that's why our tools are all based around enterprise standards (Java EE specs, Spring, Hibernate, JPA, JSF, Struts, etc.) -- we just want to provide solutions depending on what your particular needs are.
>> too many choices
That's true... Java Web Dev is a crazy mess of technologies. From a tool-provider perspective it keeps us up late at night, but there isn't much we can do besides listening to our users and providing support for all the top tier frameworks they demand.
>> app is partitioned, cannot use Hib/Spring
Without knowing more about your app and project layout, it's hard to address this one.
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Message #282428
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
I am not using MyEclipse. But going to try it for the last few months.
Also heard complains about JSP support in Eclipse. What about MyEclipse on this field?
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Message #282447
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
I am not using MyEclipse. But going to try it for the last few months.
Also heard complains about JSP support in Eclipse. What about MyEclipse on this field?
Actually the JSP support in MyEclipse is pretty good, but the editor could be faster.
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Message #282458
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Re: Grudging respect
>> away from standards
I *think* what you might be referring to, especially if you are building with Ant, could be MyEclipse not seeing the updated artifacts in the project after your script runs. If that's the case, try to turn on Window > Prefs > General > Workspace > "Refresh workspace automatically" -- that'll give you a much better experience with scripts generating resources in your project and ME seeing them.
I had to set my project up so ant uses a different build location than ME because they were always stepping on each other's toes. But that's not what I meant.. the summary is while I want to use ME fully, I don't want to "become dependant," or expect any co developer to have to use it (or any IDE). However it's been a few years since I really thought about the "non standard" aspect so I can't comment in detail, and maybe the issues I was having have been resolved.
>> work around ME Tomcat and Database
We just provide those there to be helpful for really fast prototyping of apps. If you don't want to use them or have your own setup, by all means you can completely ignore them. They don't use up any resources unless run and we don't want them getting in anyone's way.
I understand, I think in an earlier version you couldn't disable them and they got in the way, but it hasn't been a problem recently.
>> trap users
That's exactly what we *don't* want to do. We don't want anyone trapped, that's why our tools are all based around enterprise standards (Java EE specs, Spring, Hibernate, JPA, JSF, Struts, etc.) -- we just want to provide solutions depending on what your particular needs are.
That's good to hear. When the SNAP type features started appearing, I worried about ME losing focus.
>>> app is partitioned, cannot use Hib/Spring
Without knowing more about your app and project layout, it's hard to address this one.
Basically my projects take an AppFuse type approach, sort of between a low level framework and a contemporary CMS, with one project providing general classes, pages, and configuration, while specific classes, pages and configuration are in another project. Hibernate, Tomcat, DWR, Spring, etc configuration is spread between them, and ME won't recognize the specific project properly, so I can't use any of the Hibernate/Spring/etc features.
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Message #282459
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Re: Full Rountrip Support + Profiler
Hi Jens,
Because I develop Software for embedded systems, MyEclipse is not that useful for me.
However, I would buy MyEclipse if it had one of the following features I miss from Eclipse:
- An UML Editor with full Round-Trip support (Java would suffices)
- A profiler.
Do these features belongs to the MyEclipse Roadmap? (If yes: can you give some information about a release date?)
Thanks
Daniel
For a good free profiler, you have to use NetBeans
for the other stuff myeclipse or eclipse is pretty good.
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Message #282460
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
I am not using MyEclipse. But going to try it for the last few months.
Also heard complains about JSP support in Eclipse. What about MyEclipse on this field?
For JSP support on eclipse you can use web tool kit for free.
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Message #282542
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Nice bundle
I have been using MyEclipse for the past 4+ years.
It is extremely helpful since it bundles all of the major plugins that I use and makes sure that they don't stomp on one another. Before MyEclipse, when installing plugins into eclipse, I would always run into dependency issues.
Overall, very happy and hope they keep up with new features.
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Message #283135
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Re: Nice bundle
Same here. Even though I have access to the *very* expensive RAD/RSA products, I still only actively use MyEclipse. Call me lazy, but the short money up front is well worth the savings in aggravation.
Jin
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Message #283163
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Re: Nice bundle
I would like following improvent :
a) The JSF editor support "balloon help" for "beans"
in RHS properties also.( you support it in JSF editor
only - if I type "#{bean." )
b) Have a good help for Java EE classes/methods - on pressing F1(or some equivalent). There should be way to navigate all Java EE javadocs in "hlp format" or equivalent format. eg If I type in HttpServletRequest or getIp then it should open the appropriate class or methods.
c) I dont know if you guys are allowed to bundle Seam support (via jboss tools) But that would be great
to have.
d) Can you guys have "touch web.xml" or equivalent button
(ie some mechanism to reload the webapp)
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Message #283169
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
This is a nice news.I will try it now and introduce it to my team.Thanks for your hard work.
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Message #283170
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Eclipse JEE Developer Edition
I'm used to be a fan of MyEclipse but it's getting more bloated everyday. Why on earth do you need a image editor inside a Java IDE? Atm, I'm very happy with Eclipse JEE Developer Edition + Subclipse.
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Message #283172
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
We use Eclipse for our development in the Lab. However because of the shortcomings of Eclipse (Mattise, some web development...) we are in trouble sometimes.
I sometimes use netbeans but to be honest I am never convinced to use it for production work. The least thing I will lose is the fast user interface of eclipse.
I guess Mattise on the eclipse worth the money. However I am worried about the licensing method. I heard the software uses internet connection to confirm the license every time and it sometimes comes to problem because of this.
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Message #283179
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use netbeans
few years ago I try eclipse, then MyEclipse.
But Both not satisfy me.
So I try netbeans and i'm satisfying with it.
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Message #283182
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Blah Blah .... just stop this thing please.....
Now stop this thing please or start one more thread relating how people hate myeclipse and say they will give free licences to those who come up with convincing story..
i really dont understand what is the major difference between eclipse and myeclipse. I don't feel there is much difference(just a minor i feel) everything what u can do with myeclipse i believe u can do it with eclipse with certain plugin's.
eclipse:(web tools platform)
1. web development
2. maven plugins
3. xml validation's plugins
4. spring IDE plugin..
5. many more!
the biggest advantage is " THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FREE "
cheers
Martin
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Message #283186
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Re: Blah Blah .... just stop this thing please.....
the biggest advantage is " THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FREE "
Please explain why this is a big advantage Eclipse has over MyEclipse? It's not like the license fee for MyEclipse will ruin you.
I believe that if a tool makes me even the slightest bit more productive it's worth using it (if the price is reasonable, of course).
1. web development
2. maven plugins
3. xml validation's plugins
4. spring IDE plugin..
5. many more!
As the first person to comment stated, one thing that MyEclipse has always gotten right is the hot deploy feature. I don't care much about the stuff you mention in that list, but the hot deploy feature makes the license worth it for me.
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Message #283187
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Re: Nice bundle
I would like following improvent :
a) The JSF editor support "balloon help" for "beans"
in RHS properties also.( you support it in JSF editor
only - if I type "#{bean." )
b) Have a good help for Java EE classes/methods - on pressing F1(or some equivalent). There should be way to navigate all Java EE javadocs in "hlp format" or equivalent format. eg If I type in HttpServletRequest or getIp then it should open the appropriate class or methods.
c) I dont know if you guys are allowed to bundle Seam support (via jboss tools) But that would be great
to have.
d) Can you guys have "touch web.xml" or equivalent button
(ie some mechanism to reload the webapp)
+1
These would indeed be nice improvements. Is there a place we can vote for features?
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Message #283190
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Re: MyEclipse 7 favored by (non-existent?) Newbies
Now I don't claim to really post a lot here, but 3 pages of posts with the first one in 2005 is a little more than 'never posted', right?
Yeah, but my comment was not aimed at what you wrote. There is quite some difference if you compare the posts. You wrote:
Not everything has been perfect though. The validation of JSP/JSF pages is still somewhat lacking. It can be slow and has always flagged warnings or even errors for some things that are 100% correct (like dynamic attributes on jsp custom tags, or XML fragments as the body of a jsp custom tag). There is also still the weird sudden extreme slowness right after you start a JSP comment (<--). Typing becomes very slow after that and sometimes requires me to close and reopen the page.
But two of the "new" users wrote:
The MyEclipse free us away from the most ducky and boring process, we just focus on the deep issues in the domain--biz logic.
It is a easy and happy process to program with MyEclipse.
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All those things are made simple with the help of this My eclpise magic.
Feel free to judge for yourself.
Best regards
Felix
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Message #283194
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Not bad, but...
ME 7 isn't bad. The API support is fairly complete, which is nice to have.
The DB reverse-engineering isn't all there yet; EJB3 reverse engineering has some issues with many-to-many relations. Apart from that, it's pretty nice.
You can't alter tables very easily (you can use the SQL editor for it, but other than that... not so much.)
I'd say it's worth investing in, providing you use Eclipse -- and when it's provisioned with Pulse, it'll be awesome. If you haven't used Pulse... well, I don't start up Eclipse without Pulse any more.
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Message #283198
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
However I am worried about the licensing method. I heard the software uses internet connection to confirm the license every time and it sometimes comes to problem because of this.
Siamak,
Thankfully, this is incorrect. You will only need a connection to download MyEclipse initially, but then you have no need to be connected to use the software. The license does not "phone home" every time.
Thanks,
Jens
MyEclipse
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Message #283199
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Re: Nice bundle
+1
These would indeed be nice improvements. Is there a place we can vote for features?
Eirik,
There is indeed. Please visit this forum to suggest features or improvements on existing ones. We take all suggestions seriously.
Best,
Jens
MyEclipse
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Buggy on Ubuntu
I think the MyEclipse folks have a lot of work ahead for them in the bug-fixing department. I tried to get their program working in Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit linux, w/ Sun JDK6 and I've been dealing with bugs all morning.
I had an eclipse window open and decided to add their update URL. It wouldn't work, so I downloaded the latest version of eclipse, started it with a brand new workspace folder, and added their update URL. It installed and upon restart threw some fatal errors. I restarted and tried to edit a JSP and now I get some error stating I need to restart with " -Dlinux.experimental=true" Now I try starting it with my special linux parameter and still get the same error.
I've evaluated NetBeans, IntelliJ IDEA, and Eclipse on this machine and none of them had issues like this. It's a shame because I was looking forward to trying their product out.
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Message #283203
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Re: Buggy on Ubuntu
Steven,
We are really sorry you ran into this, it's a known issue on Ubuntu 8.10:
http://www.myeclipseide.com/documentation/overview/technical/ubuntu.html
Unfortunately it looks like they are shipping XULRunner 1.9 in the platform and have the browser widget (that we rely heavily on) is built against that -- we ship XULRunner 1.8 which is where the headache is coming from.
This issue was caught at the last minute in QA and *unfortunately* cannot be reproduced on every Ubuntu 8.10 install... I looked into the issue for a good half day and in a maddening turn of events only occurred on a few boxes I was working on while not others... we've made this a high priority to get this one fixed soon.
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Message #283204
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Re: Grudging respect
So... do I get a free license for my candid endorsement? Or are you going to give them all to this Ottinger guy?
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Message #283206
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Re: Grudging respect
So... do I get a free license for my candid endorsement? Or are you going to give them all to this Ottinger guy?
Hahaha. Nice.
I'll be randomly (really) picking seven posts and contacting those guys via private message. I'll also post the winners as a comment so everyone knows who got 'em.
As for Ottinger... his additional mention of Pulse earned him major bonus points, so he'll actually have a stake in the company in addition to being the namesake of my next child.
Jens
MyEclipse
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Message #283207
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Re: Full Rountrip Support + Profiler
Hi Jens,
Because I develop Software for embedded systems, MyEclipse is not that useful for me.
However, I would buy MyEclipse if it had one of the following features I miss from Eclipse:
- An UML Editor with full Round-Trip support (Java would suffices)
- A profiler.
Do these features belongs to the MyEclipse Roadmap? (If yes: can you give some information about a release date?)
Thanks
Daniel
Daniel,
I know the UML and profiler features are on the radar of our product development team, but I have not been made aware of specific time frames at this point. I'm aware that's a somewhat unhelpful answer, but as of this writing it's the best I can do. Keep an eye out...
Also, if you are working in the mobile space at all (not sure of your specific area), you might want to take a peek at our recent FireFly announcement.
Jens
MyEclipse
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Message #283211
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Re: Blah Blah .... just stop this thing please.....
the biggest advantage is " THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FREE "
Please explain why this is a big advantage Eclipse has over MyEclipse? It's not like the license fee for MyEclipse will ruin you.
I believe that if a tool makes me even the slightest bit more productive it's worth using it (if the price is reasonable, of course).
1. web development
2. maven plugins
3. xml validation's plugins
4. spring IDE plugin..
5. many more!
As the first person to comment stated, one thing that MyEclipse has always gotten right is the hot deploy feature. I don't care much about the stuff you mention in that list, but the hot deploy feature makes the license worth it for me.
That's true. You pay a small price to myeclipse so that you don't have to do all that stuff yourself. myeclipse costs $30-60 so if you send more than 2 hours installing plugins then it is not worth it, it is better to buy myeclipse.
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Message #283214
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Re: Grudging respect
For the record: on the offchance that Jens picks MY post for a free MyEclipse 7 license, I promise you that I'll refuse it. I don't need it - I already have one!
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Urgh!
It supports ICEFaces - which is good - but doesn't support a Facelet artifact type out of the box. Hmph!
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Message #283299
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Profiling please!
Please please please can you package a code profiler within MyEclipse? I do not need any more wizards for jsf, webservices, uml etc. any more!
Edwin
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MyEclipse 7 Released - WINNERS
Here are the names of those who have been randomly selected from the comment tree to receive a free MyEclipse license. I would ask that these winners contact me at JensATgenuitec.com to claim their licenses within 2 business days. Otherwise, someone else will be selected in your stead.
If you are already a MyEclipse customer, you are free to either refuse the free license or extend your subscription a further year at no cost.
Juan Lara
Michael G
Ron Eisele
Zahid Shaikh
Andrey Vityuk
Siamak S
Eirik Rosvold
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Re: MyEclipse 7 Released
Congratulations to MyEclipse Team.
I have used this one in past and I really liked the Product. Right now I am using Regular Eclipse as per my project demands.
As I have used WSAD5 and RAD7, I can say MyEclipse is also par with them and its really cheap too.
CONGRATULATIONS for your great work.
Thanks
Srikanth Kondeti
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y myeclipse
I am wondering who will spend money for myeclipse. I am using eclipse 3.4 and Netbeans 6.5 and dont see any reason to go and grab this myeclipse. If I get one license for free I am glad to give it away to any one who asks me first !!! So please dont give me one please. Poor tactic to attract people comments :)
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Re: y myeclipse
I am wondering who will spend money for myeclipse. I am using eclipse 3.4 and Netbeans 6.5 and dont see any reason to go and grab this myeclipse. If I get one license for free I am glad to give it away to any one who asks me first !!! So please dont give me one please. Poor tactic to attract people comments :)
Well, Ajith...
With over 10 million downloads and a business growing fast in these troubled times, apparently there are lots of people who see the value of MyEclipse. Of course no tool is perfect for everyone, and it may not be right for you, but have you even looked?
The value of MyEclipse lays in its broad feature set, innovative integration and the all-inclusive subscription model at a very affordable price. But, since you asked, let's do the math on why someone might want to give it a go:
The average earning power of an experienced Java developer (in the United States) is about $70,000 per year. In general, companies figure in about 40-50% of the salary cost above and beyond that figure for taxes, employee benefits and overheard. This means on the low end, companies are spending about $100,000 per year, per developer.
Assuming a typical 40-hour work week, this amounts to about $48 per hour, per developer.
Since MyEclipse costs only $30 annually, if it can save you only 40 minutes PER YEAR, the tool has paid for itself in increased efficiency and company productivity. Many of our customers find it saves them minutes and hours PER DAY on one of the features alone.
So who might pay for MyEclipse? Not everyone, certainly. But for those who value their time and energy and have any impact on the bottom line, it is most definitely worth a look.
As for the "poor tactic to attract comments" statement goes...well...I will let the irony of that comment speak for itself.
Best Regards,
Jens
MyEclipse
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Re: y myeclipse
I am wondering who will spend money for myeclipse. I am using eclipse 3.4 and Netbeans 6.5 and dont see any reason to go and grab this myeclipse. If I get one license for free I am glad to give it away to any one who asks me first !!! So please dont give me one please. Poor tactic to attract people comments :) Well, the point was to get useful feedback, I thought, and if you don't want to give useful feedback, don't.
Oh, wait - you already did that. :)
My opinion, for what it's worth: The workman is worth his hire, or don't hire him.
I don't think genuitec is saying that every developer everywhere should be forced to use MyEclipse. On the other hand, it's a good set of features put together and integrated for you, in useful form. If that's not worth the subscription, don't buy it.
No need to offer to pirate the license: that's egregious and unethical. Are you a member of the FSF or something?
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Re: My myeclipse
I am wondering who will spend money for myeclipse. I am using eclipse 3.4 and Netbeans 6.5 and dont see any reason to go and grab this myeclipse. If I get one license for free I am glad to give it away to any one who asks me first !!! So please dont give me one please. Poor tactic to attract people comments :)
As a Java developer who generally has my tools provided to me (currently RAD 6/RSA 7) I prefer to use my own license of MyEclipse in lieu of the "fat" products provided by the worksite, if that option is available. Kudos to IBM for having improved their toolsets, but given my druthers, I prefer the leaner, just as capable, MyEclipse.
So to answer the rhetorical musing: "I am wondering who will spend money for myeclipse." I raise my hand and say I would. The annual extra $60 for a fast feature-rich IDE is worth it.
:)
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Re: Eclipse JEE Developer Edition
I'm used to be a fan of MyEclipse but it's getting more bloated everyday. Why on earth do you need a image editor inside a Java IDE? Atm, I'm very happy with Eclipse JEE Developer Edition + Subclipse.
I'm on your side, man. What frustrates me most is the MyEclipse license model. It's yearly and when it expires they disable certain features from the IDE. That can be very irritating. Together with it getting bloated, I decided to quit and go for Eclipse JEE Developer Edition with maven and subclipse plugins. I've been happy and have never looked back since.
Question to to the MyEclipse guys. Why don't you bind the license to versions instead. In other words, that one buy say a license for version 6 that never expires. Because not everyone wants all those bloat that comes with every major release.
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great product
I have been using MyEclipse for 4 years now. It's a fantastic product. The maven plugin is finally here so no more messing around with m2eclipse.
The spring and hibernate tools have come in very useful for me, as well as the XFire tools most recently. For the price, you can't beat it.
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