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            <description><![CDATA[This whole thread is in-credible.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:37:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>tim julien</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;If he experienced it - it is credible to me that he is telling the truth, since credible means offering reasonable grounds for being believed.&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:09:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2002</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Greg Turner</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Unlike yourself, I guess I wasn't trying to make a business decision on his statements. &gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:54:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Greg Turner</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Greg -...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:18:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2002</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ray Harrison</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Look, this is really simple logic.  For me to say that that its not credible in no way implies that I think he is lying.  Sheesh.  And why should I run some tests to prove that you are wrong when I don't believe that you are wrong ????  I just want you...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:53:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2002</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Greg Turner</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hmm, I didn't ask you to base business decisions on my statements, but still, I think they are credible (what would it buy me lying?)... You can easily imagine that I'd really like to give you something more &quot;credible&quot;, but still... please...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:11:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2002</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bernhard Messerer</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Those comments seemed to me perfectly credible&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:40:07 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Greg Turner</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:39:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2002</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jim Edwards-Hewitt</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;quote&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:36:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Ray Harrison</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Please understand that I cannot release the source code&gt;
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<br>And please understand that your comments are not credible for the reasons mentions in my previous post.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:52:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Greg Turner</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[See my above message, we tried it with this application....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:36:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Bernhard Messerer</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[As I said, I don't have enough insight into the project to point out the specific problem (but I trust my fellow developers that there was a problem when they said there was one)....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:27:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[Not sure about the datatypes, I also like postgresql, especially lots more than mySQL. Still, I found SAPDB to be better for J2EE solutions (HPAS with SAPDB was a great combination)....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:20:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Bernhard Messerer</jf:author>
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        <title>The nice thing about SAPDB: Long-term viability</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=14451</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[And not to forget that SAP DB has a long history. In the early 80s, when I was a young and smart developer, I worked with it at Nixdorf Computer. It was developed at SQL Datensysteme GmbH in Berlin, a subsidiary of Nixdorf, and the name was DDB/4. We've...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:04:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[The one thing I like the most about SAPDB:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:08:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2002</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrik Klagges</jf:author>
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