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        <title>We haven't heard the last word yet</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hmm... $1.6 million in savings by choosing JBoss. That's pretty nice!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:04:03 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Thomas Mattson</jf:author>
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        <title>We haven't heard the last word yet</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[After we have heard some conflicting opinions from the investment banking research analysts, let's <a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1001-984476.html?tag=fd_top" target="_blank">read some more</a> from people who are supposedly to know a little more...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:02:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Ma</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA,JBOSS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;snip&gt;The second tier app server vendors will probably get completely squeezed out of the &quot;generic app server business&quot; over time, because they neither have the &quot;market leader&quot; position nor the cost advantage&lt;snip&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:11:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christopher Wells</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JBoss</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As JBoss is maturing, and proving reliable,and user/developer community is growing, definitely it will take some accounts away from more pricey App.Servers....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:36 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>J Bond</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Second tier app server vendors - haven't they gone already</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I assume the &quot;second tier app server vendors&quot; you alluded to include some of the following:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:22:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Ma</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JBoss</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Of course JBoss is going to get into accounts, even ones with big companies. Big companies have thousands of projects going on at the same time. Some WebSphere, some WebLogic, some 9ias, some JBoss, some Resin, some Tomcat, some IIS, some C++ on Unix,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:39:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:39:12 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>reference ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It is mentioned in the article by Bill Snyder that is linked at the top of this thread....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:03:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Thomas Risberg</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>reference ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Do you have a reference (link) for the GE switch ?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:47:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Arne Vajh??j</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>BEA is doing well</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It may right to say that BEA is facing tough competition rather than they are being squeezed....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:25:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>J Bond</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>quality of service</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Companies are willing to pay for a mature support model and accountability. WebLogic has that over JBoss.  Compared to Webshpere, I would argue WebLogic has worked out-of-the-box over several versions. Webshpere is getting better....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:41:03 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Clifford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Isn't This Just Business As Usual?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[People seem very focussed on the fate of BEA. They're perceived as the number one vendor and they charge appropriately, i.e. very high prices. Now serious competition is appearing at the high and low ends BEA is reacting by producing more higher end...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:33:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Igor Fairman</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>GE Announced the switch from BEA to JBoss</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[One of the divisions of General Electric recently announced they are replacing BEA's WebLogic with JBoss, and plan to do the same with several other divisions....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 04:40:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Mattox</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>6</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>BEA  Squeezed from both the ends</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[BEA's position as stated in the article with regards to IBM,Oracle could be due to those vendors ability to provide complete set of infrastructure offerings and services.The deals could be better from one stop shop for large organisations.(page-2...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 03:37:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christopher Wells</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA getting squeezed from both ends?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Looks like stock analysts have opinions as divergent as developers. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:51:41 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Floyd Marinescu</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>BEA getting squeezed from both ends?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17828</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[An article on TheStreet.com last week discusses BEAs position in the appserver market, claiming that some analysts feel they are getting &quot;squeezed from both ends&quot;.  On one side there are the large corporate vendors of IBM and Oracle, and on the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2003 16:03:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>T Q</jf:author>
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