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        <title>Developers don't care?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Also, drag and drop programming is for jerks who don't know how to program, &gt; those who will always be only average (if that). <br><br>I respectfully disagree. I learned how to program using C/C++ and Java before even learning...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:09:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 12, 2004</jf:date>
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        <title>Nip it in the bud</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Once I had a minor corn on my arm for which the doctor had a simple, practical remedy. He gave me some salicylic acid and asked me to dip a pin tip in it and puncture the corn and do this several times a day for several days. The acid would kill the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:39:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>code freedom</jf:author>
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        <title>Developers don't care</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">I am surprised few have taken the bait.</div>
<br>
<br>Me too. Darn, I was looking forward to a good argument. 
<br>Glad you agree though :-)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:43:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Troll Fiddler</jf:author>
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        <title>which ones is dummies did you say?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Don&#xB4;t you think that this is a really unnecessary discussion? It&#xB4;s full of private opinions - not facts.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2003 03:56:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Harald Humml</jf:author>
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        <title>which ones is dummies did you say?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Rolf is that really you?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:52:54 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason McKerr</jf:author>
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        <title>which ones is dummies did you say?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;1)Application availability and performance is generally average to poor: ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:20:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>Close your VB.NET for dummies and have a look at this:</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://wwws.sun.com/software/images/products/I1_JS_creator_lg.jpg" target="_blank">http://wwws.sun.com/software/images/products/I1_JS_creator_lg.jpg</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:23:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 3, 2003</jf:date>
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        <title>Developers don't care?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am surprised few have taken the bait....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:33:03 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>me havename</jf:author>
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        <title>Developers don't care?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Show me an &quot;enterprise developer&quot; (whatever that is) who doesn't care about the language and infrastructure they use. I care about time to market but not as much as I care about the facilities offered by the tools/language/infrastructure I use....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:02:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Troll Fiddler</jf:author>
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        <title>But how many linux servers actually got nailed by this ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't understand why linux came into picture here when the thread is about Java and .Net. But still Jason has a valid point, the problem got fixed pretty quickly compared to MS turnaround on these kind of issues.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:20:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2003</jf:date>
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        <title>.Not is dead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">that should read:</div>
<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; &quot;You also have to compromise an account&quot; instead of 
<br>&gt; &quot;You also have to compromise and ccount&quot;
<br>
<br>We really need a spell check here.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:04:57 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Frank  </jf:author>
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        <title>.Not is dead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Microsoft is getting better imho, but think for a minute all of the vendors are just has bad has MS. It comes down to one thing $$$$$$.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:00:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Frank  </jf:author>
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        <title>But how many linux servers actually got nailed by this ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Actually - all of them.
<br>
<br>Go patch your server.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:27:41 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ricky Datta</jf:author>
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        <title>.Not is dead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[that should read:
<br>
<br>&quot;You also have to compromise an account&quot; instead of 
<br>&quot;You also have to compromise and ccount&quot;]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:04:41 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason McKerr</jf:author>
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        <title>.Not is dead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22683</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Really?</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:02:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason McKerr</jf:author>
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