Support Forums: Message List - An interview with Sun's Amy Fowler regarding rich clients http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 05:51:16 -0400 An interview with Sun's Amy Fowler regarding rich clients http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Amy Fowler is a Sun engineer, and has been part of Swing, JavaServer Faces, and now Java Desktop Network Component (JDNC). There will be a JNDC presentation at this year's JavaOne conference.

JDesktop Network Components...]]> Thu, 27 May 2004 16:37:07 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 16:37:07 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 16:37:07 -0400 May 27, 2004 Sean Sullivan 0 While we are plugging Web compoent frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 SOFIA. All the components are included with the framework, plus plug-ins for IDEs and Dreamweaver, all free, all open source.]]> Thu, 27 May 2004 09:31:54 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 09:31:54 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 09:31:54 -0400 May 27, 2004 Dan Dubinsky 0 While we are plugging Web compoent frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 No NetxApp have NEVER directed me on what to develop. Sorry, didn't mean to offend at all :$ it's just many of the really useful components are in Sierra. But that doesn't detract from the fact that they are really useful and...]]> Thu, 27 May 2004 06:53:46 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 06:53:46 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 06:53:46 -0400 May 27, 2004 graham o'regan 1 An interesting year indeed http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 http://myxaml.com/marcclifton/archive/2004/05/21/290.aspx

And it work with Linux too! Without a single change..

I knew all...]]> Thu, 27 May 2004 04:26:41 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 04:26:41 -0400 Thu, 27 May 2004 04:26:41 -0400 May 27, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0 Macromedia Flex http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Of the other technologies out there, Macromedia Flex seems most promising because it's the only one that at this moment can run on most browsers out there. The problem with that is that it's proprietary and expensive. And I really don't know...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 20:52:29 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 20:52:29 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 20:52:29 -0400 May 26, 2004 Sean Sullivan 0 While we are plugging Web compoent frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Echo & Echopoint look really good, but the best components are in Sierra which isn't OSS :(. Have Nextapp told you not to stand on their toes with the Echopoint project, because there doesn't seem to be any overlap with the...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 20:42:41 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 20:42:41 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 20:42:41 -0400 May 26, 2004 Brad Baker 2 Is XAML the Future of The Rich Client? Ask The Pros http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Wed, 26 May 2004 17:22:26 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 17:22:26 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 17:22:26 -0400 May 26, 2004 Gerald Bauer 0 XAML For Linux Is Here Today; XUL For Java Is Here Today Too http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 The problem with XUL is that it can only be used with Mozilla.

Mozilla XUL, of course, only works in Mozilla. But there are many XML UI language alternatives using Java that you can use today (e.g. Vexi, SwiXml, Luxor,...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 17:05:57 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 17:05:57 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 17:05:57 -0400 May 26, 2004 Gerald Bauer 2 not so easy as you think http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Wed, 26 May 2004 14:10:05 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 14:10:05 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 14:10:05 -0400 May 26, 2004 Dan Dubinsky 0 And so am I http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 May 26, 2004 Sumit K 0 I said it before but it did not really sink in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142
To build a new Boeing Jumbo jet model is both easier and far cheaper.

You...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 13:35:32 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:35:32 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:35:32 -0400 May 26, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0 There is a place for both HTML and Rich Client to fit in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 - HTML is very statical - no interactive things like in rich clients
- Every new version of browser come with new type of headache (specially JS)
- Network traffic - with rich GUI, 10 clients on ISDN line is no...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 13:32:36 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:32:36 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:32:36 -0400 May 26, 2004 Pavel Tavoda 0 not so easy as you think http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Only when you have it all, WinFx/Avalon/XAML/Aero/Longorn with all the APIs speaking "native C#" will you get performance similar to the ordinary current vanilla HTML today.Didn't an MS evangelist recently suggest that...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 13:21:07 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:21:07 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:21:07 -0400 May 26, 2004 graham o'regan 5 not so easy as you think http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 "Unfortunately I think it will be Microsoft with Avalon in Longhorn"

Unfortunately I think you are right. All the various solutions today have one thing in common: They are to slow compared to HTML.

It could be a...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 13:01:50 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:01:50 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 13:01:50 -0400 May 26, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 6 There is a place for both HTML and Rich Client to fit in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26142 Wed, 26 May 2004 12:19:40 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 12:19:40 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 12:19:40 -0400 May 26, 2004 Dan Dubinsky 8