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        <title>Just one more de-optimized test from M$</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sam Jones,<br>Why do you claim de-optimized? The response from MS was trying to point out<br>that when performing more enterprise level operations like accessing a database, or operations that pass large amounts of data, iis/asp.net performs favorably...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:28:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:28:59 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:28:59 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 27, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Terry Russell</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Significant flaw in the throughput calculation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This is a great catch, and precisely why its so important to post code and go with full disclosure when a benchmark is performed and results published.</blockquote>I smell a Microsoft conspiracy ..<br><br>p.s. ;-)<br><br>Peace,<br><br>Cameron...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:53:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:53:06 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:53:06 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 23, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Significant flaw in the throughput calculation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Ramesh,<br><br>Thanks for actually reviewing the code and pointing out the error! You are correct the driver should convert callCount to a double before doing the division.  We will be posting updated code with the fix today.  <br><br>The correct driver...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:53:07 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:53:07 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:53:07 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 23, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Greg Leake</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Significant flaw in the throughput calculation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I was looking through client code and found a significant flaw in the calculation of throughput. In the code the &quot;callCount&quot; and &quot;stdyState&quot; are declared as long. The &quot;throughput&quot; is declared as double but the code which...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:19:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:19:34 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:19:34 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ramesh Ramachandran</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>you're never on point either..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It wouldn't really have mattered whether we used Tomcat or any other appserver for<br>these tests. Tomcat was used as it is packaged with JWSDP. Note that Tomcat<br>is used only as the webserver to handle the http request and since the number<br>of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:16:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:16:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:16:53 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Shanti Subramanyam</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Wrong again, or what fiasco?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[From what I have read, I'm not sure it is really worth replying, but I simply cannot let your posting stand like this.<br><br>I have been involved in various successful J2EE projects in the past years. These projects included the usage of the EJB...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:57:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:57:59 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:57:59 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Lipp</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>My experience</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I run a linux/websphere internet datacenter and another .net extranet.<br>Both platforms have their own pluses and minuses.<br>My lowly experience with both platforms tells me if i can get the job done on our .net extranet, it is always a win for our...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:17:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:17:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:17:05 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>sguslan sguslan</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>it is entirely your decision</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My person is irrelevant. Mendacious accounts of the Elephant EJB servers performance and scalability have flourished for years now, hiding the biggest fiasco in IT industry history ever. That is thousands times more important.<br><br>An inferior...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:15:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:15:17 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:15:17 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>the end of the EJB nonsense</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This finish this year&#x92;s performance cheat from Sun and the thread go to the archives together with the Petstore benchmark. Once again Sun has made a fool of themselves caught &quot;in flagranti&quot;. And as usual Java zealots try to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:34:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:34:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stephen Wink</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>the end of the EJB nonsense</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This finish this year&#x92;s performance cheat from Sun and the thread go to the archives together with the Petstore benchmark. Once again Sun has made a fool of themselves caught &quot;in flagranti&quot;. And as usual Java zealots try to pretend it is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:42:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:42:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:42:01 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>That wasn't exactly the point...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>BTW, why do you waste your time &amp; energy responding to Rolf? You know very well he has no idea what he is talking about (about 100% of the time that is).</blockquote>Some of us roll boulders up hills in vain hope.<br><br>Others reply to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:43:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:43:20 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:43:20 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>That wasn't exactly the point...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It is a little bit humorous that we (as a technology industry) produce a stupidly inefficient data standard (XML) then argue about who is &quot;faster&quot; at implementing a standard that (by definition) is slow.</blockquote>Since I respect...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:33:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:33:18 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:33:18 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dilip Ranganathan</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>That wasn't exactly the point...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It is a little bit humorous that we (as a technology industry) produce a stupidly inefficient data standard (XML) then argue about who is &quot;faster&quot; at implementing a standard that (by definition) is slow.</blockquote>Why do you...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:27:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:27:41 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:27:41 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dilip Ranganathan</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>6</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>P.S.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Cameron,<blockquote>Apache Tomcat and .NET are apples and oranges, kind of like comparing iPlanet to Visual Basic. </blockquote>Is that so?<br><br>ASP.NET has its own build-in web server called HTTP<br>runtime, which processes HTTP requests, controls...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:01:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:01:44 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:01:44 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>away with old superstition</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27341</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My stance is that all EJB Servers are unreliable, caused by underlying flaws in EJB basic design combined with over-architecture.<br><br>You seem to have a different opinion, <br>but it is a little unclear what do you mean,<br><br>1) Are all EJB Servers...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:48:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:48:25 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:48:25 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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