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        <title>Re: Side effects of using Filters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I used filters to implement an historical database (as per the example in the Hibernate manual).   I had various issues, matching what you have described - and ended up having to alter two Hibernate classes to actually get the thing to allow non-eager...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:32:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 10, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex Bacon</jf:author>
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        <title>Side effects of using Filters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Tested on Hibernate 3.0.5<br><br>Be careful with filters and caches. First, if you use eager fetching somewhere you need to activate the filter before the eager fetching happens. That's somehow logical since the filters extend the SQL select statement....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:46:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:46:51 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tobias Frech</jf:author>
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        <title>Guys, Hibernate is about relational databases</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Heh, oops, there were two Michaels in the thread, I thought it was a reply aimed at Mr. Gloegl. Sorry Dmitriy!</blockquote>No probs, Gavin. <blockquote>Yep in releational model is different but Hibernate is O/R mapping tool which tries to map...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:12:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:12:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:12:02 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dmitriy Kiriy</jf:author>
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        <title>?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Um. I just wasted half an hour typing up what I assumed was a thoughtful and helpful reply to your questions.<br><br>I won't bother again.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:47:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:47:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>blah blah</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yeah, whatever. Goodbye TSS. Get a moderation system.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:35:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:35:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian  Bauer</jf:author>
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        <title>blah blah</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Gavin,<br><br>My object model is insance because I do not want dependencies between packages? <br><br><i><br>I guarantee you, that whenever you write a persistent domain model like this, you will later on come along and change it to add a backreference...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:28:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:28:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Giedrius Trumpickas</jf:author>
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        <title>blah blah</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If I understand it right, there really are 2 solutions to this: either you set your FK as nullable in your relational model, or you make the relationship navigable both ways in your object model. I would obviously prefer the second option, since...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:15:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:15:33 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:15:33 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>blah blah</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[So, I guess, my answer is: I could implement this but <br><br>(1) it would probably be a performance bug in some circumstances<br>(2) if I implemented it, people would probably try to use it, which would be a bad thing<br><br>So I don't want to.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 01:22:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>blah blah</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I understand that you *really* need to think this one through to understand it, and its one I've never quite been able to explain in text. First of all, you need to understand that Hibernate is very different to some other solutions in that it supports...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 01:14:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Hibernate3 Filters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Listen Gringo it why OJB guys have anonymous Fk feature :)</blockquote>Great feature, it is what every full ORM does and I wouldn't write pages about, because it is implied and expected. There is nothing about your particular problem in...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 01:06:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian  Bauer</jf:author>
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        <title>Hibernate3 Filters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You will get a FK violation exception.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:59:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian  Bauer</jf:author>
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        <title>Hibernate3 Filters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>solve this first: If you save a B (without any reference to an A), what should be inserted into the FK column?</blockquote>Nothing should be inserted in the database, instead a foreign key exception should be thrown, since every B should have...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:21:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 16, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Hibernate3 Filters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;quote&gt;<br>If you still insist (don't I remember your name, you keep postings this everywhere you can?) that there is a problem that needs to be solved, solve this first: If you save a B (without any reference to an A), what should be inserted into...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:52:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 16, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Giedrius Trumpickas</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[You sound nervous and hysteric, take it easy :) I just posted my opinion and you started to scream, roflmao :). You remind me Cocobase fame Ward Mullins :).<br><br>I do know that by making key nullable it will work. But nullable key means that child...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:50:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 16, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Giedrius Trumpickas</jf:author>
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        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This obviously wrong view pops up from time to time. We have an explanation in the FAQ, the book, and many postings on the forum. I guess we should add a big NOTE to the reference documentation:<br><br>THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH UNIDIRECTIONAL ONE-TO-MANY...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:48:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 16, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian  Bauer</jf:author>
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