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I better approach would be to integrate your contextual information into industry tuning tools. This is not SolarMetrics areas of expertise and customers would like to be able to use the same tools across products and technologies (EJB,...]]> Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:26:42 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:26:42 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:26:42 -0400 Sep 11, 2004 wlouth 0 Tuning Tools http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 I think it would be interesting to see someone besides the vendors running these tests _from scratch_ and submitting their own results. Look at it this way: Not every app has Gavin King (Hibernate) and Patrick Linskey (KODO) around to help...]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:02 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:02 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:02 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Greg Campbell 1 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:57:18 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:57:18 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:57:18 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Jonathan Gibbons 0 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 ...that uses 1-many joining and results in 21 db hits.This is the lowest result posted to date, but it would not always universally be the best configuration we recommend in all customer situations. As previously pointed out, there are other...]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:43:25 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:43:25 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:43:25 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Jonathan Gibbons 1 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:51:31 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:51:31 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:51:31 -0400 Sep 8, 2004 Juozas Baliuka 0 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518
You and I are quite in agreement on this. It is what you describe, this understanding of best practices for architectures using particular ORM packages, that I would like to see captured in a document. It's great to know that one can...]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:02:57 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:02:57 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:02:57 -0400 Sep 8, 2004 Cameron Purdy 0 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 Seriously, how would we know if the docs are good enough, if the only published numbers are the ones supplied by the vendors? Have you tried (from scratch, not with the submitted Hibernate / KODO / CMP / TopLink work) to attain / match / beat...]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:34:07 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:34:07 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:34:07 -0400 Sep 8, 2004 Emmanuel Bernard 2 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518
Not every app has Gavin King (Hibernate) and Patrick Linskey (KODO) around to help implement and tune. ;-)
Reading the reference docs or Hibernate in action is suffisent to optimize an "app" as simple as...]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:00:45 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:00:45 -0400 Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:00:45 -0400 Sep 8, 2004 Cameron Purdy 3 TORPEDO's Next Steps http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 not saying that cost is the only factor, and yes Torpedo is good in its goals of putting such choices head to head, but they did miss some important points with cost / db support.i am sorry if this came across as if i don't like torpedo...]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:59:58 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:59:58 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:59:58 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 tyler@middleware-company.com 0 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 Not every app has Gavin King (Hibernate) and Patrick Linskey (KODO) around to help implement and tune. ;-)Reading the reference docs or Hibernate in action is suffisent to optimize an "app" as simple as torpedo....]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:54:02 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:54:02 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:54:02 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 Emmanuel Bernard 4 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 You can look at it that way, I guess.OTOH, Oracle is obviously working on tuning TopLink, because this is a beta release of their software that is trying to get the number of db operations down to a minimum, right? So if you are a TopLink...]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:19:24 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:19:24 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:19:24 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 Scott McCrory 0 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 So Oracle claims the top spot on a set of tests that don't do any realistic performance evaluation, and that test something entirely subjective and dependent upon the particulars of any given project (object relational mapping). Does this...]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:22:43 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:22:43 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:22:43 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 Cameron Purdy 8 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518 Can we hose the vendors down so that they stop trying to use tools we're using for our own evaluation, just for their benefit?To play devil's advocate, why SHOULDN'T Oracle and others try to address our needs by using our own...]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:15:55 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:15:55 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:15:55 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 Scott McCrory 0 TORPEDO is a scud. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518
i am sorry if this came across as if i don't like torpedo (besides...]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:31:35 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:31:35 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:31:35 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 jason poley 1 Oracle Makes New TORPEDO Submission; Claims Top Spot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28518
This happened with the Java Pet Store, which was...]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:22:15 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:22:15 -0400 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:22:15 -0400 Sep 7, 2004 Drew McAuliffe 10