Support Forums: Message List - Spring method replacement: A la carte interface http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 18:26:19 -0400 Implementation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 I'm just curious (out of pure interest) whether method lookup is implemented with method replacement under the hood (i.e. with a prebuilt Reimplementor).There's a common base class for the objects representing the two kinds of...]]> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:33:41 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:33:41 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:33:41 -0400 Oct 20, 2004 Rod Johnson 0 Choice of Absurd Flexibility http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499
But I would echo the previous comments that this is rather clear example of “reverse designing”: while working on AOP Spring team came across interesting and cool side effect, namely, that they can XML-ed dynamic proxy...]]> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 05:00:16 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 05:00:16 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 05:00:16 -0400 Oct 20, 2004 Al Le 1 Choice of Absurd Flexibility http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 I would actually agree with Rod that there is no specific renaming functionality in Spring per-se. It is really about XML-ed configuration of dynamic proxies.

But I would echo the previous comments that this is rather clear...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:10:08 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:10:08 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:10:08 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Nikita Ivanov 2 Choice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 by introducing such a huge hack as dynamically renaming Java class methods at runtime to adhere to Spring APIs behind the scenes
Spring contains no functionality intended to "dynamically rename Java class methods at runtime...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:42:23 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:42:23 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:42:23 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Rod Johnson 3 Absurd Flexibility http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Rod Johnson:
Hence it's best to avoid depending on any framework API (Spring or other) for configuration management if there's a good alternative.
The bottom line is that whether or not you conform to some Spring API when...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:36:19 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:36:19 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:36:19 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Dmitriy Setrakyan 0 Absurd Flexibility http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Rod Johnson:
Hence it's best to avoid depending on any framework API (Spring or other) for configuration management if there's a good alternative.
The bottom line is that whether or not you conform to some Spring API when...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:29:14 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:29:14 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:29:14 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Dmitriy Setrakyan 4 Approach http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 I hate depending on Spring APIs.To clarify, one of the many benefits of Dependency Injection is maximizing potential for reuse. Hence it's best to avoid depending on any framework API (Spring or other) for configuration...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:01:58 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:01:58 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:01:58 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Rod Johnson 6 Approach http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Rod:
I hate depending on Spring APIs.
Well, in the spirit of dynamically renaming class methods, I would like to propose another feature to Spring team: Let's have a way to rename Java null to nil.

I love...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:46:48 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:46:48 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:46:48 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Dmitriy Setrakyan 0 Approach http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Some MI motivations info can be found from Rod's blog:http://blog.springframework.com/rod/index.php?m=200408Rod wrote:"I love working with Spring, but I...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:39 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:39 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:39 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 hookomjj 0 Approach http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 I hate depending on Spring APIs.Now, really, this is a bit hysterical… Why taking it to another extreme like that?

Regards,
Nikita.]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:57:19 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:57:19 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:57:19 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Nikita Ivanov 0 Approach http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 http://blog.springframework.com/rod/index.php?m=200408

Rod wrote:
"I love working with Spring,...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:08:35 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:08:35 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:08:35 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Jose Nyimi 1 Mixins & abstract schema http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Looks like this could be used to implement Richard Öberg's "abstract schema" conceptSpring 1.2 will include support for Ricard's "abstract schema" concept, in the AOP framework.]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:09:04 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:09:04 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:09:04 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Rod Johnson 0 Approach http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Still, I will have to see who benefits from method replacenment though :-) The original motivation for this whole area of functionality was "lookup methods", which have a compelling use case when you want to avoid the...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:08:14 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:08:14 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:08:14 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Rod Johnson 11 Mixins & abstract schema http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:11:45 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:11:45 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:11:45 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Anssi Piirainen 0 Mixins & abstract schema http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29499 Also, you can achieve the same thing using Spring AOP. I guess I'd like to understand the particular itch that this scratches a little better.
Yes, you can implement similar things using AOP introductions. Maybe this could be...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:58:17 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:58:17 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:58:17 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Anssi Piirainen 2