Support Forums: Message List - Inversion of Control Containers: A write up http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 17:40:25 -0400 Inversion of Control Containers: J2EE without EJB :) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 wanted to believe. Until I took a dispassionate look at whether the benefits of EJB in practice were all they promised--initially based on all the EJB projects in the group of companies I then worked for--and whether...]]> Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:04:40 -0500 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:04:40 -0500 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:04:40 -0500 Nov 11, 2004 Rod Johnson 0 Dance til you drop... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:33:41 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:33:41 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:33:41 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 Karl Banke 0 Dance til you drop... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840
How many times must we dance this dance? As the Spring guys metioned just about everytime you make this assertion, Spring does have its own messaging, jmx, or transaction manager.
Then, frankly, the spring guys are in...]]> Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:35:26 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:35:26 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:35:26 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 David McCoy 0 JMX http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840
As the Spring guys metioned just about everytime you make this assertion, Spring does have its own messaging, jmx, or transaction manager.
I assume you mean: Spring does not have its own messaging, jmx, or...]]> Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:29:15 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:29:15 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:29:15 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 David McCoy 0 Inversion of Control Containers: J2EE without EJB :) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 original thread:

J2EE without Enterprise Java Beans?

Posted by: Rod Johnson on December 05, 2001 in response...]]> Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:06:49 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:06:49 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:06:49 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 Fyodor Kupolov 1 Dance til you drop... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840
1. Code to glue different objects together (services) so they can talk to each other.
2....]]> Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:37:30 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:37:30 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:37:30 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 Keith Donald 0 Dance til you drop... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:29:59 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:29:59 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:29:59 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 2 Dance til you drop... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 How many times must we dance this dance? As the Spring guys metioned just about everytime you make this assertion, Spring does have its own messaging, jmx, or transaction manager.

Then, frankly, the spring guys are in denial....]]> Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:37:10 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:37:10 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:37:10 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 Karl Banke 4 JMX http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 As the Spring guys metioned just about everytime you make this assertion, Spring does have its own messaging, jmx, or transaction manager.
I assume you mean: Spring does not have its own messaging, jmx, or transaction...]]> Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:25:16 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:25:16 -0500 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:25:16 -0500 Nov 10, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 1 JMX http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Hm, well said Juergen but in the end this seems gradually going the way I was always expecting. Adding more and more stuff (JMX, 2PC TX, Messaging etc.) to the sweet & simple thing like pico, spring whatever will make it over time as...]]> Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:52:35 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:52:35 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:52:35 -0500 Nov 9, 2004 David McCoy 7 JMX http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Adding more and more stuff (JMX, 2PC TX, Messaging etc.) to the sweet & simple thing like pico, spring whatever will make it over time as bloated as your regular J2EE server - just more unstable.
Well, that's not the...]]> Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:28:33 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:28:33 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:28:33 -0500 Nov 9, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 0 IOC and JMX Mbean Server , I got ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840
I like the comment and I guess I'll have to do it (with my example code) and put it out for public consumption. I already have done this and I want to put into public production soon because I could use this for business...]]> Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:17:30 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:17:30 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:17:30 -0500 Nov 9, 2004 David Whitehurst 0 JMX http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:03:31 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:03:31 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:03:31 -0500 Nov 9, 2004 Karl Banke 9 Inversion of Control Containers: A write up http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Actually who needs pico or spring when there is already everything in place with JMX.
Well, you'll typically just expose *specific* components in your application via JMX - namely, the ones that you want to manage via a JMX...]]> Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:15:53 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:15:53 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:15:53 -0500 Nov 9, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 10 Inversion of Control Containers: A write up http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29840 Good news. Actually who needs pico or spring when there is already everything in place with JMX. I mean that is what a service is all about. It is a manageable part of your application. If it depends on other services then no problem. Either...]]> Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:39:54 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:39:54 -0500 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:39:54 -0500 Nov 9, 2004 Tazz Man 0