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        <title>Holub explains a little more; without 'evil' this time!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2004/jw-0102-toolbox.html">More on getters and setters</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:25:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 7, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>typo</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>so flames...</blockquote>Meant to type 'some flames...']]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:59:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>Putting out the fire...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It seems to have been Allen Holub's intention to document this issue in such way in order to ignite so flames......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:56:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>I had a lot of respect for him...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Back then, I had a lot of respect for him.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:13:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>my understanding of OO.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Unfortunately, basically everything he has said with respect to Object Oriented programming has been completely at odds with my understanding of OO.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:57:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>Article title misleading</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The title of this article is misleading.  I was expecting Holub to discuss how to significantly reduce Java code bloat by using an annotation that would auto-magically create the necessary getter or setter in byte code (compile-time)....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:32:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>S.  P.</jf:author>
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        <title>Obviously you cant handle objects</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You know, the alledged 'Getter/Setter' problem is way beyond you.  I read your ridiculous nonsense about it and it's crap.<br><br>Objects dont cut it alone.  Ever hear of 'layered applications?'  Like uh, MVC or anything that split the responsibilities...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:07:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 26, 2005</jf:date>
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        <title>Difference between Reflection and Getters/Setters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What about an object whose sole intent is to store some data while being transported from one layer to another? Such is the role of a VO, or a struct in C++. Wouldn't it be reasonable in this specific situation to provide getters and setters,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:23:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 24, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nils Kilden-Pedersen</jf:author>
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        <title>Difference between Reflection and Getters/Setters</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Reflection is the guy who just ties you down and cuts you up.</blockquote><br>Shouldn't your bodyguard (the SecurityManager) prevent that?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:22:46 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 24, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nils Kilden-Pedersen</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What about an object whose sole intent is to store some data while being transported from one layer to another? Such is the role of a VO, or a struct in C++. Wouldn't it be reasonable in this specific situation to provide getters and setters,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:11:33 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 24, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew McVeigh</jf:author>
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        <title>Difference between Reflection and Getters/Setters</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What about an object whose sole intent is to store some data while being transported from one layer to another? </blockquote>Then that object really doesn't need accessors - if that is its sole intent. If it does anything more than that it...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:13:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 24, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32777</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What about an object whose sole intent is to store some data while being transported from one layer to another?</blockquote><br>If I understand your comment, then you are basically looking at a situation where it is necessary for an object to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:20:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 24, 2005</jf:date>
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        <title>Difference between Reflection and Getters/Setters</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I meant GOF's Memento pattern, instead of State pattern.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:18:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 24, 2005</jf:date>
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            <description><![CDATA[What about an object whose sole intent is to store some data while being transported from one layer to another? Such is the role of a VO, or a struct in C++. Wouldn't it be reasonable in this specific situation to provide getters and setters, since it...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This is the reverse of conventional OO thinking :-)  OO is all about encapsulation of data, and allocating appropriate responsibilities to classes.  So, a class should not expose its &quot;insides&quot;, but should provide a reasonable...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:11:11 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Evan Oslick</jf:author>
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