Support Forums: Message List - The definitive BPEL and Java article http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 21 May 2013 05:47:50 -0400 Wonders with BPEL4WS and BPMN and BPMs : BPM Talk Maneesh Innani http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:29:07 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:29:07 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:29:07 -0500 Mar 8, 2006 Maneesh Innani 0 BPEL engines http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 Do you know of any comprehensive lists? Better still, any feature comparisons?
Sorry no but this might give you some ideas... http://www.bpmi.org/members.htm, not...]]> Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:06:53 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:06:53 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:06:53 -0400 Apr 17, 2005 John Davies 0 BPEL engines http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 http://www.manageability.org/blog/stuff/workflow_in_java/view | grep BPEL]]> Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:31:57 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:31:57 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:31:57 -0400 Apr 17, 2005 John Mettraux 0 BPEL engines http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279
I am a bit biased, as I work for SeeBeyond, but in the list of J2EE-based BPEL servers the author forgot to mention SeeBeyond's eInsight Business Process Manager
I think you'll find there's a whole bunch missing, Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:53:31 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:53:31 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:53:31 -0400 Apr 17, 2005 PJ Murray 3 I liked the article http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279
I believe this key beauty in this article, is that it managed to be very very introductory, without being too...]]> Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:57:42 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:57:42 -0400 Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:57:42 -0400 Apr 17, 2005 Ali Elshishini 0 BPEL and CDL once again http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279
to be clear on this BPEL4WS1.1 is *not* a standard. It *is* a submission to Oasis that is driving what will become a standard. So while the author is correct in his assertions about BPEL4WS1.1 he is not correct about the evolving...]]> Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:50:20 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:50:20 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:50:20 -0400 Apr 15, 2005 SteveRT101 0 BPEL engines http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 I am a bit biased, as I work for SeeBeyond, but in the list of J2EE-based BPEL servers the author forgot to mention SeeBeyond's eInsight Business Process Manager
I think you'll find there's a whole bunch missing, Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:49:40 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:49:40 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:49:40 -0400 Apr 15, 2005 John Davies 4 SeeBeyond's eInsight Business Process Manager http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279
Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:08:36 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:08:36 -0400 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:08:36 -0400 Apr 15, 2005 Maurizio Turatti 5 FWIW, OpenStorm may not be a viable option http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 Steve Hoffman 0 upside down... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 It would be interesting to extend this article to how BPEL fits into the model view controler paradigm that most Java developers use to build applications. One of the big inhibitors of "workflow" technology in the past is that...]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:10:31 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:10:31 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:10:31 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 joost de vries 0 The right perspective? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:31:14 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:31:14 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:31:14 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 Greg Pavlik 0 The Wrong Perspective... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 Workflow and BPM features should be offered in plain POJO java. And web services transport should be optional on top for integration purposes. That is our approach for simplified development of workflow and BPM.
Sure, let's...]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:48:55 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:48:55 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:48:55 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 Paul O'Connor 0 Re: WS-CDl and BPEL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279
The objective of my article has not been a comparison of BPEL and WS-CDL and I don’t want to start a discussion on this topic. The fact however is that BPEL has gained support from major vendors, including Oracle, IBM, and...]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:23:23 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:23:23 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:23:23 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 Matjaz Juric 0 The right perspective http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279 While BPEL has some features in common with workflow and BPM, it is simply not suited for those purposes because it is hard coupled with web services. Workflow and BPM features should be offered in plain POJO java. And web services transport...]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:22:10 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:22:10 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:22:10 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 The Ugly One With The Jewels 0 WS-CDl and BPEL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33279     An excellent reply, thank you for this enlightening insight into CDL and BPEL's position within CDL.

I think the most exciting part of CDL is its position within B2B world, an area where BPEL is virtually useless...]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:58:03 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:58:03 -0400 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:58:03 -0400 Apr 14, 2005 John Davies 0