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        <title>JetBrains opens Meta Programming System for Early Access</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Subtext also embraces refactoring as a first-class coding skill, beyond what a best-of-breed Java IDE can do.</blockquote><br>What I like best about the research of Dmitriev and Fowler is that they seem to regard direct manipulation as the...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Dmitriev and Fowler make some excellent points.<br><br>Fowler considers example-driven programing, which is something mainstream OO developers have no exposure to.  He specifically praises Subtext, which superimposes dataflow graphs on source text....]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>links to interviews...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Sergey Dmitriev, the CEO of JetBrains<br><a href="http://www.codegeneration.net/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=60" target="_blank">http://www.codegeneration.net/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=60</a><br><br>Andy Evans at Xactium<br><a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:04:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alexandre Bairos de Medeiros</jf:author>
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        <title>ISO 18629 Tries a New Logic</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://java.sys-con.com/read/101674.htm" target="_blank">http://java.sys-con.com/read/101674.htm</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:39:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rodolfo  de Paula</jf:author>
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        <title>Complex....</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>if this is what is nessesary just to generate a hello world program, I dont een want to know how much work it will be to create a full blown application..</blockquote><br>I just measured that it takes 40 seconds to walk 100m, but 70 seconds...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:58:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ville Oikarinen</jf:author>
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        <title>Need links to help define why DSLs are useful...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>DSL experts, any great links to post here? </blockquote><br>Have a look at what Sheard<br><a href="http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~sheard/" target="_blank">http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~sheard/</a><br>has written on the subject, perhaps starting with his...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Jun 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>G Hermitage</jf:author>
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        <title>Standardization</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[DSLs are usually custom languages, just as application APIs are usually custom to a particular enterprise. If there is no standard API for an industry, don't expect a standard DSL. Linking DSLs to standardization is to confuse DSLs with the monolithic...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:21:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>G Hermitage</jf:author>
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        <title>Need links to help define why DSLs are useful...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>The object of a DSL is the opposite of a full blown language like Java.  Instead of a very feature-rich, powerful but low-level language you build a very specific but terse language that allows applications against a specific...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:48:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>George Coller</jf:author>
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        <title>Yeah! Let's mix up DSLs for Hibernate, Security, and JSP</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>But will your time-API &quot;dialect&quot; get any compiler errors, syntax high-lighting, keyword completion, or refactoring help, and all other nice stuff that mordern IDE support you with? Nope, that together with code that is usally harder...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:01:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[As I also mentioned, you can (and should!) create or use an API like the one you describe. But will your time-API &quot;dialect&quot; get any compiler errors, syntax high-lighting, keyword completion, or refactoring help, and all other nice stuff that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:45:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 20, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christer Wikman</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[This is a very good example of where two different things are compared as if they were of equal time.<br><br>Calendar cal = Calender.getInstance();<br>cal.setTime(time);<br>cal.add(Calendar.HOUR, 2);<br>cal.add(Calendar.MINUTES, 15);<br>time =...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Patrik A</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Oh, oh..</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Ironically, although crucial for surviving in current  capitalism , IT projects had big impact on job marketing in last decades. Some people had to recycled itself but eventually many people simply lost their jobs, in all economics fields and...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Will Hartung</jf:author>
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        <title>Oh, oh..</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Err, I misread my own quote. Instead of <blockquote> DSLs should..</blockquote> i thought was &quot;programs should be&quot;.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:08:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rodolfo  de Paula</jf:author>
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        <title>Oh, oh..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34619</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[From Martin Fowler article:<br><blockquote>If language workbenches live up to their hopes, in ten years time we'll look back and laugh at what we now think DSLs should look like.</blockquote><br>Ironically, although crucial for surviving in current...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:41:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rodolfo  de Paula</jf:author>
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        <title>Need links to help define why DSLs are useful...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34619</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The object of a DSL is the opposite of a full blown language like Java.  Instead of a very feature-rich, powerful but low-level language you build a very specific but terse language that allows applications against a specific domain to be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:35:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alessandro Santini</jf:author>
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