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        <title>Getting Started with Apple Webobjects Architecture=MVC</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Dear,

   I am new to Webobjects and now i have to prepare the Architecture Document for the same.

Plan to use MVC,  can use MVC Architecture for Webobjects Applications&gt;.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:28:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:28:18 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:28:18 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 7, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rajagopal y</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Appfuse is not rad</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hard to define what RAD is, for me in appfuse the tools for real rad are missing.<br>Appfuse is really kickstart to me, with a good collection of patterns which you can follow for the subsequent app modules.<br>For real RAD, appfuse misses form...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:48:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:48:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:48:55 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Werner Punz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Appfuse is not rad</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>it is a kickstart, but RAD is more like the Sun Studio Creator or the Oracle JDeveloper.</blockquote>I disagree with you. RAD is rapid application development. Not necessarily Visual Application Development.<br><br>Just because SUn Studio...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:26:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:26:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:26:11 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 20, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Appfuse is not rad</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[it is a kickstart, but RAD is more like the Sun Studio Creator or the Oracle JDeveloper.<br>Apple still has the best price/feature tool currently, but as soon as exadel or myeclipse have gotten their act together or as soon as nitrox lowers its price,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:02:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:02:30 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:02:30 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 20, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Werner Punz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Tapestry+Hibernate</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Tapestry+Hibernate is better than WO at least for pure webapps, but face it, you dont get tools with both of those solutions, you can get some tools, but non of them are as far reaching as webobjects. JSF is not as far as Tapestry, you have to add...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:59:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:59:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:59:05 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 20, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Werner Punz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Apple releases WebObjects as a free application</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Fact of life is, now tapestry and hibernate are there as alternates and same cases better solution too. <br><br>Only way for Apple to compete is open source. Otherwise its going to die doesn't matter who elegant solution it is. <br><br>But as usual...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:40:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:40:26 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:40:26 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Pushpinder Singh</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Web objects is old design now.  Wrong!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What I want is a RAD to integrate Spring, Hibernate, Tapestry and Axis.</blockquote><br>Try AppFuse: appfuse.dev.java.net]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:32:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:32:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:32:11 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Web objects is old design now.  Wrong!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm sorry for not being objective on web objects since I wrote the previous message from pure frustration: I had so much trouble porting an application written v 5.2 on Mac (with Openbase) on Windows (with SQL Server) due to a lot of small...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:34:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:34:25 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:34:25 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Adrian Neagomir</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Buy a computer to try WO ?! - LOL</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Bernard, nobody says that $1000 for new computer with great OS and *PROBABLY* great dev. tool is too much.<br>If somebody *NEEDS* WO, sure that's not too much.<br><br>But for merely trying ?!<br><br>If i could shell out a grand for each piece of software...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:10:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:10:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:10:27 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Buy a computer to try WO ?! - LOL</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm trying to offer my experiences of learning to use WebObjects.  Another way of looking at this is that Apple are not giving away WO for free - but you can buy a new Mac and get WO with it :-)  <br><br>Let's see... IntelliJ IDE costs $499.  WSAD costs...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:38:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:38:09 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:38:09 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>bernard devlin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Buy a computer to try WO ?! - LOL</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>buy an old mac of ebay if you have to </blockquote><br>Are you kidding ?<br>If there's a single statement that will scare people off WO - this is it. :))]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:29:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:29:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:29:08 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>This is a great opportunity</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I've been a member of TSS for about 3 years, and almost never bother to post here even though I read it on an almost daily basis.  But I feel I really must register how important it is that web application developers give WebObjects a look.<br><br>A few...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:06:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:06:41 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:06:41 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>bernard devlin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Web objects is old design now.  Wrong!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>First of all web objects is an intrusive framework that requires your objects to be inherited from some base class if you want them to be used through the framework.</blockquote><br>That's true, but intrusive sounds pretty strong.  It's one...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:45:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:45:35 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:45:35 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ashley Aitken</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>9</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Don't talk about oudated versions' bugs ! Use WO 5.3</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Back in &#x2018;the day&#x2019; it had something going for it but last time I played with WO(5.1), it had bugs in the view builder that apparently had been lingering for years...</blockquote><br>Sigh, why do I even bother to add the  URLs ?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:11:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:11:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:11:11 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bob Ghost</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Web Objects - not a good experience</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34621</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Back in &#x2018;the day&#x2019; it had something going for it but last time I played with WO(5.1), it had bugs in the view builder that apparently had been lingering for years. The HTML it outputted was very dated and the windows IDE reminded me of Win...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:36:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:36:32 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:36:32 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stefan Mischook</jf:author>
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