Support Forums: Message List - Debu Panda on the Persistence Archive http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:43:40 -0400 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 I really don't know why big corporations throw money out the window buying pricey servers.
Because big pricey servers can provide lots of performance and reliability.
Big corporations hesitate to embrace...]]> Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:52 -0400 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:52 -0400 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:52 -0400 Jul 14, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065
Spring adds persistance convience, but not persistance standardization.
Each of those on its own(Spring/Hibernate Spring/ibatis...)is standardized. So no inconvenience.

>>If you like Spring...]]> Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:58:55 -0400 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:58:55 -0400 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:58:55 -0400 Jul 14, 2005 ohIDidntKnowThat ohIDidntKnowThat 1 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 If there was ONE official container I would agree with all you said. Using Spring and Hibernate (at least for now) there is only one setup one has to fight with.

I like Spring too, it allows me to get a lot of milage out of a...]]> Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:22:38 -0400 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:22:38 -0400 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:22:38 -0400 Jul 12, 2005 Matt Giacomini 2 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 EJB is container-centric.
EJB 3.0 isn't.
I have no clue why big companies waste time with EJB3 spec..beyond me. Using Tomcat, Spring and Hibernate any industrial strength application can easily be developed. So...]]> Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:57:39 -0400 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:57:39 -0400 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:57:39 -0400 Jul 12, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 And each container has its own specific way of doing things (I know the trouble because I have ported an Orion app to JBoss and Weblogic)
If there was ONE official container I would agree with all you said. Using Spring...]]> Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:32:38 -0400 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:32:38 -0400 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:32:38 -0400 Jul 12, 2005 ohIDidntKnowThat ohIDidntKnowThat 4 EJB - Its configurlicious http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 I prefer no exceptions.

and I would prefer to be rich and have magical powers.
Annotation/configuration just introduces additional complexity

Additional complexity compaired to what?

I...]]> Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:08:37 -0400 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:08:37 -0400 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:08:37 -0400 Jul 11, 2005 Matt Giacomini 0 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 Evolution is good...but EJB3 is a late evolution Later is much better than never! Most application developers I've spoken are excited about EJB3 and eagerly waiting for EJB3 spec to be finalized.
and copied loads from...]]> Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:25 -0400 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:25 -0400 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:25 -0400 Jul 11, 2005 Debu Panda 5 EJB - Its configurlicious http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 Hopefully! Do you perfer Checked Exceptions?
I prefer no exceptions. Annotation/configuration just introduces additional complexity and new points of failure without much real benefit.
EJB Annotations are meta-data...]]> Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:14:25 -0400 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:14:25 -0400 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:14:25 -0400 Jul 11, 2005 Casual Visitor 1 Make mulch outta the EJB3 spec :) Use Spring and Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 PAR?:) Who comes up with these ridiculous ideas?
ejb-jar.xml should have had this info starting with spec 1 (or at least in spec 2)
EJB is going to die people. It is a container-dependent architecture. Run away from EJB and embrace...]]> Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:00:18 -0400 Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:00:18 -0400 Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:00:18 -0400 Jul 10, 2005 ohIDidntKnowThat ohIDidntKnowThat 6 Why not take a critical and objective look at a new technology? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 And why not take a critical and objective look at any new technology? Its absolutely essential for the success of enterprise Java to do that and to understand the technology's benefits, drawbacks and when to use it. That's far better than...]]> Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:46:49 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:46:49 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:46:49 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Mike Keith 0 Why not take a critical and objective look at a new technology? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 Chris, based upon my experiences with you in the past you have thrown a lot of stones at EJB 3.

And why not take a critical and objective look at any new technology? Its absolutely essential for the success of enterprise Java...]]> Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:45:31 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:45:31 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:45:31 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Chris Richardson 1 EJB 2-style complexity? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:01:40 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:01:40 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:01:40 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Mike Keith 2 .har http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 Hibernate and JDO seem to work just fine without having to package everything up in .par.
FYI, Hibernate has had the .har packaging format for a quite a while now. It's perhaps not quite perfect yet (the .par format is maybe a...]]> Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:00:04 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:00:04 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:00:04 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Gavin King 0 That's the sprit! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:51:36 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:51:36 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:51:36 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 nextdb 0 The definition of FUD http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35065 not a vendor or open source developer with a particular product to push
Yeah, except for the SIG you use which points to the books you're trying to hawk or the "Professional Services" (wikipedia that) you're trying...]]> Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:58:32 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:58:32 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:58:32 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Donald Smith 1