Support Forums: Message List - Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 07:31:18 -0400 Good point http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Using a stateless front-end, storing user preferences in cookies and encapsulating sensitive data inside the database....]]> Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:54:09 -0400 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:54:09 -0400 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:54:09 -0400 Apr 18, 2006 tbone the brain 0 Stored procedures are grim http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841
At my previous company, one of their products is written in VB/.net and uses MS SqlServer as the backend. They can't scale the system beyond 10,000 employees....]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:10:42 -0500 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:10:42 -0500 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:10:42 -0500 Feb 22, 2006 Jared N 0 scalability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Can we talk about the other stuff offline?
Sure, my email is cameron at tangosol dot com

Peace,

Cameron Purdy
Tangosol Coherence: The Java...]]> Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:17:36 -0500 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:17:36 -0500 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:17:36 -0500 Feb 10, 2006 Cameron Purdy 0 scalability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841
Cameron, I would be interested in how these systems load the data, etc. Just general info, I know you can't give specifics.
There are a variety of data sources. In a risk management app for example, reference data is...]]> Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:12:39 -0500 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:12:39 -0500 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:12:39 -0500 Feb 10, 2006 Mark N 2 scalability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Cameron, I would be interested in how these systems load the data, etc. Just general info, I know you can't give specifics.
There are a variety of data sources. In a risk management app for example, reference data is...]]> Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:09:58 -0500 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:09:58 -0500 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:09:58 -0500 Feb 10, 2006 Cameron Purdy 3 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841
Don't assume that the often-mentioned "impedance mismatch" between OOP and relational stores will occur in practise.
True. But using the ORM will allow for any mismatches and not force the db or OO code...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:07:46 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:07:46 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:07:46 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Steve Zara 0 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Don't assume that the often-mentioned "impedance mismatch" between OOP and relational stores will occur in practise. True. But using the ORM will allow for any mismatches and not force the db or OO code into each...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:59:32 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:59:32 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:59:32 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Mark N 1 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 It looks Matt like talks about this stuff. I am sure there are many specific situation and it needs specific solution. I do not argue, I just share expierence.
My view is that too often there are discussions of specifics that...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:06:51 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:06:51 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:06:51 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Steve Zara 2 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:35:16 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:35:16 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:35:16 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 3 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 I have worked with legacy systems too, but we have never ported or migrated legacy systems. It was integration in all of cases (JMS or custom stuff). Typical frontend never communicates with system using SQL (some of backends are not SQL...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:03:24 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:03:24 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:03:24 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Steve Zara 4 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:40:19 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:40:19 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:40:19 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 5 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 How about if we leave the app guys to develop the app, and the db guys to develop the db?Because the db is part of my app?
Anyone who has coded large apps, knows that the primary driving force behind the analysis...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:13:54 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:13:54 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:13:54 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Mark N 0 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Development is not so important task in "information system life cycle", probably it is less expensive to clone or to rewrite yet another "accounting system" than to retrain admins and to make politcal decisions and...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:37:42 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:37:42 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:37:42 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Steve Zara 6 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:00:38 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:00:38 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:00:38 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 7 Introducing Amber, Relational-to-Object Mapping instead of ORM http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38841 rtability? We spent close to a half million on db software, last year. Do you think we are going to port to something different? No one in their right mind would do that. Portability is an issue for the academics - not a real world...]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:23:59 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:23:59 -0500 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:23:59 -0500 Feb 9, 2006 Steve Zara 8