Support Forums: Message List - Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:53:37 -0400 Re: Has Model 2 failed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119
Model 2 sees improvements now. Take a look at Stripes. Minimal XML configuration, View Helper pattern allows preparing output data right from JSP therefore JSP can be called directly, event handling is promoted as first-class...]]> Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:57:42 -0400 Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:57:42 -0400 Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:57:42 -0400 Jul 3, 2006 Michael Jouravlev 0 support state in business logic layer http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Sat, 01 Jul 2006 21:19:31 -0400 Sat, 01 Jul 2006 21:19:31 -0400 Sat, 01 Jul 2006 21:19:31 -0400 Jul 1, 2006 query weki 0 Re: Has Model 2 failed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 I don't think that Model 2 paradigm has failed, maybe just some implementations. But you are right in that using Model 2 to implement the most basic...]]> Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:58:52 -0400 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:58:52 -0400 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:58:52 -0400 Jun 30, 2006 Eelco Hillenius 1 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 What if Javascript is turned off?
It gracefully degrades to simple session context. As we say in Italy, you cannot have a full barrel and a drunk wife :-)]]> Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:05:27 -0400 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:05:27 -0400 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:05:27 -0400 Jun 30, 2006 Antonio Petrelli 0 Has Model 2 failed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 The only thing that saddens me (sorry Antonio, I don't want to offend you) is that there are still projects popping up almost daily of which the main reason of existence is to facilitate work arounds for the model 2 (web mvc) paradigm (which...]]> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:22:58 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:22:58 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:22:58 -0400 Jun 29, 2006 Michael Jouravlev 2 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119
One remark about the window scope. Judging from your code, that will only work when a window is explicitly opened by a link, but not when the user opens up a new tab or e.g uses ctrl+n in IE.

No, it will work even...]]> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:55:30 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:55:30 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:55:30 -0400 Jun 29, 2006 Michael Jouravlev 1 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 No, it will work even with "open new window", "open new tab" etc. I tried it with Firefox, but I think it will work even with IE.
As it is written in the site:

When a new page is open without the "window.open" JavaScript command,...]]> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:28:33 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:28:33 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:28:33 -0400 Jun 29, 2006 Eelco Hillenius 0 micro frameworks must DIE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:33:37 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:33:37 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:33:37 -0400 Jun 29, 2006 B C 0 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Which I believe has largely being inspired (or driven) by JBoss Seam...]]> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:44:41 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:44:41 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:44:41 -0400 Jun 29, 2006 analog boy 0 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 The only thing that saddens me (sorry Antonio, I don't want to offend you) is that there are still projects popping up almost daily of which the main reason of existence is to facilitate work arounds for the model 2 (web mvc) paradigm (which...]]> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:25:02 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:25:02 -0400 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:25:02 -0400 Jun 29, 2006 Antonio Petrelli 3 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:59:53 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:59:53 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:59:53 -0400 Jun 28, 2006 Eelco Hillenius 7 Remins me something ;) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 http://crosscontext.sf.net with similar motivation : "an independent abstraction of request,...]]> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:49:05 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:49:05 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:49:05 -0400 Jun 28, 2006 Vitaly Shevchuc 0 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Here's to another shortcoming in the Servlet spec: one can't get a hold on the ServletContext from a HttpServletRequest without going through an HttpSession (if it has been created)...]]> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:55:00 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:55:00 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:55:00 -0400 Jun 28, 2006 Antonio Petrelli 0 Re: Scopes: an extensible way of managing application scopes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Instead of using the request to get the session context and the session to get the application context...]]> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:48:30 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:48:30 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:48:30 -0400 Jun 28, 2006 Cédrik LIME 1 Re: Encapsulated Context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41119 Looks like Encapsulated Context Pattern to me. Use Spring instead....]]> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:59:44 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:59:44 -0400 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:59:44 -0400 Jun 28, 2006 Antonio Petrelli 0