http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 05:16:46 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:03:05 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:03:05 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:03:05 -0400 Jul 21, 2006 B C 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:46:17 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:46:17 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:46:17 -0400 Jul 21, 2006 B C 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:17:37 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:17:37 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:17:37 -0400 Jul 21, 2006 B C 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:54:00 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:54:00 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:54:00 -0400 Jul 21, 2006 B C 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:39:33 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:39:33 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:39:33 -0400 Jul 21, 2006 B C 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:29:20 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:29:20 -0400 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:29:20 -0400 Jul 21, 2006 B C 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:27:26 -0400 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:27:26 -0400 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:27:26 -0400 Jul 19, 2006 Claudio Buffa Pace 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 When I started it was in the form of WYSIWYG tools for JSP, which eventually did sort of materialize, spearheaded by Allaire with their JRun Studio and then Macromedia with JSP support in Dreamweaver. But it literally took years. JSP, if you...]]> Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:13:58 -0400 Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:13:58 -0400 Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:13:58 -0400 Jul 18, 2006 Ian Hlavats 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 It's that things like writing components are complex.

Yes you can code JSF without tools, but it sure is easier with tools. And my contention has always been that if it requires tools to be simple, it's not really simple, is...]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:49:12 -0400 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:49:12 -0400 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:49:12 -0400 Jul 17, 2006 Steve Zara 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:51:30 -0400 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:51:30 -0400 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:51:30 -0400 Jul 17, 2006 Casual Visitor 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:48:55 -0400 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:48:55 -0400 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:48:55 -0400 Jul 17, 2006 Akil Agarwal 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Some of the most innovative and productive software development environments have been strongly dependent on tools. Perhaps the best example is Smalltalk. It is a neat language, but what makes Smalltalk implementations some of the most...]]> Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0400 Jul 16, 2006 Ilya Sterin 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 There is one aspect of JSF that is not that simple, and that is writing components; but most developers don't do that. Most developer use the rich sets of components out there. However, even writing components isn't too difficult - it is no...]]> Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:07:03 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:07:03 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:07:03 -0400 Jul 16, 2006 Kurt Williams 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:38:26 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:38:26 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:38:26 -0400 Jul 16, 2006 Sascha Sadeghian 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41344 It would actually be interesting to learn how concrete of a requirement that is for people. I can't really see how the same component, with all it's potential state and behavior, could just operate in a different context and still keep the...]]> Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:11:34 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:11:34 -0400 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:11:34 -0400 Jul 16, 2006 Steve Zara 0