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        <title>Stack traces are a Neanderthal way of messaging the IDE</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sure, stack traces are better than nothing. But if stack traces were so great, shouldn't the compiler show stack traces instead of giving sissy messages "Error x in file y line z"? ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:18:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cay Horstmann</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: er...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>&gt;I have definitely seen environments with <b>too much</b> debug info. In one case, the application was producing on the order of 100GB of logs per day.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:31:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Will Hartung</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: er...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Obviously, the key is to log <i>the right amount</i> of <i>the right stuff</i></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:28:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Eugelink</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The Power and Pain of POJOs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I think you walk a fine line when you start dealing with stack traces.  The problem lies in the fact that in some cases, 90% of the information in a strack trace from JBoss or Glassfish is useless the majority of the time to the majority of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:44:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rickard Oberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: er...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I have definitely seen environments with <b>too much</b> debug info. In one case, the application was producing on the order of 100GB of logs per day. That's not 10 minutes ;-)<br><br>- Applications that <i>pointlessly</i> log too much will...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:33:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sean Sullivan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: er...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Just a quick comment, I have never once seen where a non-production server, library or framework produced too much debug info, but I have seen many that produce too little....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:15:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Stack traces</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Grokking stack traces is a time honored skill in the Java world....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:04:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Will Hartung</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: er...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Just a quick comment, I have never once seen where a non-production server, library or framework produced too much debug info, but I have seen many that produce too little.<br><br>Tons of debug info might take you an extra 10 minutes while...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:14:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roe McCune</jf:author>
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        <title>er...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just a quick comment, I have never once seen where a non-production server, library or framework produced too much debug info, but I have seen many that produce too little....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:38:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leif Ashley</jf:author>
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        <title>what the</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[now what this was all about?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:20:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>candido lopez rodriguez</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The Power and Pain of POJOs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think you walk a fine line when you start dealing with stack traces.  The problem lies in the fact that in some cases, 90% of the information in a strack trace from JBoss or Glassfish is useless the majority of the time to the majority of the people....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:03:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Perrin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The Power and Pain of POJOs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[[quote]What's your view on stack traces in application servers? Where and to whom should they be exposed?[/quote]...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:57:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ivan Latysh</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The Power and Pain of POJOs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think that some extra holidays would help.
Are we talking about POJOs or stak trace ?
Few ideas and well confused.

Guido.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:38:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guido Anzuoni</jf:author>
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        <title>The Power and Pain of POJOs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42134</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In "<a href="http://weblogs.java.net/blog/cayhorstmann/archive/2006/09/the_power_and_p.html">The Power and Pain of POJOs</a>," Cay Horstmann describes his experiences writing a JavaEE application using EJB3 and JSF in a "couple of days," from the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:15:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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