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        <title>Re: BPEL primer from Brenda Michelson</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[BPEL is nice as a language for modeliing busines processes. But I don't see much value beyond that for real world problems, until it supports state managment, declarative transaction demarcation and security, among other things.]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: The weakness of BPEL</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Yes it seems like I have missed something but it is not sequence and flow but the control link. Control links seems to be a "rescue plank" when the structured notion cannot describe what you want....]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: The weakness of BPEL</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>BPEL is blocks of executions nodes that are put in sequence. It is impossible to jump out of that block. This limitation makes BPEL suitable for orchestrating a service but not for representing a business process, ...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Gregory Van Seghbroeck</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: how about implementations?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>One of the main issues with BPEL is reusability of processes.  Currently the standard does not allow you to nest and reuse predefined business sub processes that could be used throught the application domain.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Gregory Van Seghbroeck</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The weakness of BPEL</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>BPEL is blocks of executions nodes that are put in sequence. </blockquote>

That's not true.  There is a sequence and a flow definition.  Flow defines a concurrent processes.

Ilya]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: BPEL primer from Brenda Michelson</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43198</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[very good and informative document.
thanks]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[BPEL is blocks of executions nodes that are put in sequence. It is impossible to jump out of that block. This limitation makes BPEL suitable for orchestrating a service but not for representing a business process, for that something like XPDL should be...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: how about implementations?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Yeah, BPEL has certain appeal and kind of making sense theoretically but when tried practically… let say it is different story that somehow reminds me Entity Beans saga. <br>It can work, but implementations of the technology are far from...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Yeah, BPEL has certain appeal and kind of making sense theoretically but when tried practically… let say it is different story that somehow reminds me Entity Beans saga. ...]]></description>
        

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        <title>BPEL primer from Brenda Michelson</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43198</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[From Bruce Snyder:<blockquote>Brenda Michelson has made available an awesome <a href="http://elementallinks.typepad.com/bmichelson/2005/09/view_bpel_proce.html">BPEL Primer</a> from her research into the <a...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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