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    <title>Support Forums: Message List - Tim Bray: Choose RELAX Now</title>
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        <title>Re: No magic bullet</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>No, I don't want them to be integrated. The point is, just like all the other XML "technologies", this consistently extends outside of its domain.<br><br>Once you start doing datatype validations, it's over, you're screwed by the dynamic...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:06:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 5, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No magic bullet</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[No, I don't want them to be integrated. The point is, just like all the other XML "technologies", this consistently extends outside of its domain....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:09:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:09:56 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 5, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Constance Eustace</jf:author>
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        <title>Relax but not too much....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If w3c schemas are so badly defined why we are speaking about it? Maybe because W3C Schemas are used by most of the products actually in the market as principal schema language? Why JAXB committee has choosen W3C Schemas...???...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:35:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:35:56 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 5, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Indrit Selimi</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JAXB 2 and RELAX-NG</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[fyi: JAXB 2.1 EA2 has partial support for RELAX-NG:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:29:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:29:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sean Sullivan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: put up or shut up</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I have not seen any substantive criticism of XSD.  I have been using it productively for five years-... No one seems to be able to say quite what fault they find with it.  (Note that I do NOT use it for runtime validation and do not ever...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:51:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tatu Saloranta</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: waste of time</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>XML Schema is adequate. Stop wasting people's time.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:40:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tatu Saloranta</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>waste of time</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[XML Schema is adequate. Stop wasting people's time.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:14:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ben Eng</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>putting up...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Here is one then.  There is no equivalent to SubstitutionGroup for attributes as there is for elements.  This limits the things you can do with attributes quite badly.  I wrote a long article on this here  <a class="jive-link-external"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:02:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jay Daley</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: who cares?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>For the rest of us, we don't care. </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:46:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>who cares?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, the problem is that if you have to work with one of the zillions of XML-based standards, you have no choice _and_ don't care: the spec is defined in XML Schema and there is one written for you, so you don't even need to read the XSD; you just need...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:33:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hacking bear</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: finally!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Dude, we discussed this before numerous times and I never disagreed with you.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:17:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: finally!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Mostly because very efficient XML parsers/processors already existed, so instead of reinventing the wheel with a DSL, XML was used.</blockquote><br>Please repeat after me 1000 times:<br>XML is not a language, XML is not a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:58:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: finally!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Mostly because very efficient XML parsers/processors already existed, so instead of reinventing the wheel with a DSL, XML was used.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>reinventing the wheel</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[BNF predates XSchema by decades.  yacc is something like 30 years old.  ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:18:17 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Scott Ferguson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>XSD really difficult?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43323</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't think that XSD are so difficult. I have used W3C Schemas after reading 2-3 hours power point slides it seems to me like programming in oo fashion. If you have to write a really detailed definition you prefare to use  "relaxed" solution or a very...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:59:11 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Indrit Selimi</jf:author>
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