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    <title>Support Forums: Message List - IBM withdrawing Websphere 5.1 as a Software Product</title>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[no I'm not kidding ;-). Anything based off of eclipse 3.x is going to be faster than the eclipse 2.x that WSAD was based on. I can get full debugging trace to the console and jboss booted with embedded tomcat in 1/4 the time to boot the WTE in either...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:25:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:25:45 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:25:45 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jin Chun</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Also, in WSAD5 when you publish a Web project (not a EAR project) to a server, you can choose to publish to Tomcat or WTE4 or WTE5. I havn't tried Tomcat in WSAD myself, but shouldn't be much different from WTE.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:40:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:40:02 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:40:02 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I would even suggest a strategy that some take, which is to dev against tomcat and deploy to WAS (if you've stripped out the ejb stuff). There's nothing like not having to have a laptop tricked out with 2 gigs just to run a rational branded...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:59:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:59:38 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:59:38 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'd have to disagree with you. I've used WAS in production since version 3.5 and we currently have 5.1 in production now with a migration plan to 6.x. I've never been happy with either the development or production experience with WAS, but...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:21:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:21:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:21:43 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guido Anzuoni</jf:author>
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        <title>No one should consider Websphere 6</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Having used Websphere 6 for about a year, I can only recommend it to my competitors, as it is absolutely impossible to have any sort of progress with it.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:04:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:04:55 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:04:55 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eirik Maus</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I haven't used RAD yet but heard RAD6 is much fatter than WSAD5 and terrible to use (RAD7 only came out last Dec)....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:22:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:22:10 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:22:10 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I like to echo my similar sentiment here. WSAD and RAD are decent products since they are all based on great Eclipse platform. The installation of RAD takes 4 to 5 CDs. On top of that, if you need to have it work with the WAS Portal Server, you need to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:11:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:11:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:11:43 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Lu</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Not to be contentious, but WSAD? WSAD was based on the eclipse 2.x core. RAD/RSA 6 on the older version of eclipse. We are currently staying off of RSA 7 due to the memory footprint/install space profile. I guess what I am trying to say is that for some...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:12:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:12:39 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:12:39 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jin Chun</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>There is an alfa pack</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[There is an early preliminary implementation (EJB3 Feature Pack alpha ) on <a class="jive-link-external" href="https://www14.software.ibm.com/iwm/web/cc/earlyprograms/websphere/was61ejb3/"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:24:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:24:27 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:24:27 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Martijn Blankestijn</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: IBM withdrawing Websphere 5.1 as a Software Product</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>My mistake -- that is a WS pack. Apparently no JEE5 yet.</blockquote>

WAS6.2 already runs on Java5. You don't need JEE5 if you don't need JSF1.2 or EJB3.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:40:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:40:26 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:40:26 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: IBM withdrawing Websphere 5.1 as a Software Product</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My mistake -- that is a WS pack. Apparently no JEE5 yet.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:06:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:06:35 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brennan Spies</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: IBM withdrawing Websphere 5.1 as a Software Product</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[There is a feature pack for JEE 5 on WAS 6.1, but JEE 5 won't be fully supported until 7....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:54:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:54:31 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:54:31 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brennan Spies</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I heard that unlike Websphere 4 and 5.0, Websphere 6 was quite a good J2EE/JEE platform.</blockquote><br><br>I kind of have to disagree with your comment on 4 and 5:<br>These websphere versions were quite horrible as development...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:01:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:01:34 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:01:34 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: IBM is a big dustbin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I heard that unlike Websphere 4 and 5.0, Websphere 6 was quite a good J2EE/JEE platform.</blockquote>I kind of have to disagree with your comment on 4 and 5: These websphere versions were quite horrible as development platforms (5...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:44:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:44:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juergen Hoeller</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: J2EE 5 on websphere</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44132</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You're very welcome ;-)....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:03:41 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:03:41 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:03:41 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jin Chun</jf:author>
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