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        <title>Re: Groovy vs. JRuby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA["Groovy suffers from a lack of a clear vision and a penchant for choosing computer-science buzzwords over usability and familiarity."...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:55:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 10, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roger Voss</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Groovy vs. JRuby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The only reason it's been getting so much press is because people think it's such a big deal that Sun sucked up the JRuby team.  There's been a zillion stories released about that I frankly couldn't care less that Sun is maintaining the project.  It was...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:01:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:01:39 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Mar 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Marc Stock</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Groovy vs. JRuby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't know Groovy, so I don't have an opinion on Groovy vs Ruby as a language.  But from what I've seen JRuby has more momentum and interest.  Hard to prove as a google or technorati search for groovy brings up way more stuff than Groovy...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:24:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Groovy vs. JRuby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA["Groovy is by far the superior choice for a dynamic language to run on the JVM. If you're deep into the Java community then you're well aware of that point, and you're well aware of the incredible momentum Groovy has picked up over the last year."...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:34:32 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:34:32 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Mar 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Phil Swenson</jf:author>
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        <title>Groovy vs. JRuby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[For someone that is supposedly a Java sage, is sad to see how far from the heartbeat of where Java is headed this person is - I refer to the matter of Ruby on the JVM....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:58:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:58:02 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Mar 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roger Voss</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: 2007: What to Expect in the Java Universe</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, that's the whole point.  ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:50:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Hurst</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: 2007: What to Expect in the Java Universe</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>To be successful in this role, a language has to have truly seamless integration with Java classes and libraries.  JRuby doesn't seem to, and there will always be some degree of mismatch between the Ruby implementation of things and the Java...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark Eagle</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Posting your own blog</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[+ infinity (Raul)

What a disgusting act… I wonder even if he has a clue - what are we talking about here.

Anyways, people make mistake and I advise you not to repeat this kind of act again.

Amit]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:01:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Amit Kumar</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSR 296</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> Eventually I tumbled to the idea of building my own state-based framework that was modelled on Struts.  </blockquote>
Oddly, Struts development makes me prefer Swing, whatever the pain might be.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:49:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Are we heading to yet another commons-xxxx?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Class Enum&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:26:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: 2007:  What to Expect in the Java Universe</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Interesting article, although I would question some points.<br><br>I just can't see Ruby becoming the scripting language of choice on the JVM.  To be successful in this role, a language has to have truly seamless integration with Java classes...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:55:54 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Frank Bank</jf:author>
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        <title>is that knowledge that important?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree that nested generics are a perfect example of "generics gone wrong", but at the same time, why is it important to understand that statement if all you want to do is use enums?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:48:33 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Daniel Kordoba</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Are we heading to yet another commons-xxxx?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't think the optimal choice is to have to use both to get the features that should be in one.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:27:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ivo Houbrechts</jf:author>
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        <title>What about JSR 310 aka Date and Time API?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Can we expect JSR 310 be part of Dolphin?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:10:57 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dmitry Zemnitskiy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Will it be Groovy or Ruby?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44529</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree. Groovy used to suck but now it's pretty sweet and I think it will be getting a lot sweeter.  If you're mostly dealing with Java development, Groovy is a FAR better choice than Ruby for scripting.  It's syntax is much more familiar to Java...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:52:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Marc Stock</jf:author>
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