Support Forums: Message List - Oracle Proposes Open Source Persistence Project at Eclipse http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 22:06:48 -0400 Re: Which loser uses Toplink? :) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Oracle is giving Toplink to the general public because it lost the battle with Hibernate :)...]]> Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:48 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:48 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:48 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 Persistability Ltd 0 Re: Does anybody really struggle with O/R mapping? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 ...but as volume increases and your response time requirements remain sub-second, you are forced to begin looking for places to cut and O/R mapping is one place where the overhead can be high. Hence, the reason so many of the O/R frameworks...]]> Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:51:46 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:51:46 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:51:46 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: Does anybody really struggle with O/R mapping? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:51:45 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:51:45 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:51:45 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 Steve Zara 0 Re: Does anybody really struggle with O/R mapping? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Some of the highest load transactional systems (such as EBay) use O/R mapping....]]> Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:11:39 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:11:39 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:11:39 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 William Childers 2 Re: Does anybody really struggle with O/R mapping? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:18:30 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:18:30 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:18:30 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 Alessandro Santini 0 Re: Does anybody really struggle with O/R mapping? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 About scalability, I am now involved with high-load transactional systems (EFT platform) and there is no way an O/R mapping could help. Some of the highest load transactional systems (such as EBay) use O/R mapping.]]> Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:15:14 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:15:14 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:15:14 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 Steve Zara 4 Re: Oracle Proposes Open Source Persistence Project at Eclipse http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Thank you very much for your comments.
Can you tell the versions of Hibernate and Toplink you are using as well as Application Server name and version?

Thanks in advance....]]> Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:39:38 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:39:38 -0400 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:39:38 -0400 Mar 12, 2007 Matt Giacomini 0 Does anybody really struggle with O/R mapping? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:37:20 -0400 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:37:20 -0400 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:37:20 -0400 Mar 11, 2007 Alessandro Santini 5 Re: Oracle Proposes Open Source Persistence Project at Eclipse http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564
So, Oracle, quit farting around and playing at open standards and open source and work with your competitors to deliver something we really need.

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If Oracle "cared" about open standards, and...]]> Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:22:44 -0400 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:22:44 -0400 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:22:44 -0400 Mar 11, 2007 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: Oracle Proposes Open Source Persistence Project at Eclipse http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564
All that is beside the point. My data abstraction layer – O/R, type enforcement, caching, etc. should not limited to supporting one or two languages/platforms and the dbms community could help make that...]]> Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:37:02 -0500 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:37:02 -0500 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:37:02 -0500 Mar 10, 2007 Vitaliy Semochkin 1 Which loser uses Toplink? :) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:37:46 -0500 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:37:46 -0500 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:37:46 -0500 Mar 10, 2007 ohIDidntKnowThat ohIDidntKnowThat 1 Re: Oracle Proposes Open Source Persistence Project at Eclipse http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 All that is beside the point. My data abstraction layer – O/R, type enforcement, caching, etc. should not limited to supporting one or two languages/platforms and the dbms community could help make that happen.
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I used both hibernate and toplink at my company and find both to be great products.


Can you please do a small comparison?
...]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:05:07 -0500 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:05:07 -0500 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:05:07 -0500 Mar 9, 2007 Matt Giacomini 0 Re: Back to abstraction http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 bulk update is not more dangerous then bulk delete, right? Yes, it is. The reason is to do with object cache management.]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:34:17 -0500 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:34:17 -0500 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:34:17 -0500 Mar 9, 2007 Steve Zara 0 Re: Oracle Proposes Open Source Persistence Project at Eclipse http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44564 If you try to make a complete data abstraction with a Java persistence layer, then you are moving toward object database....]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:22:03 -0500 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:22:03 -0500 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:22:03 -0500 Mar 9, 2007 Steve Zara 0