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        <title>Re: A prince among partiers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The Tangosol party was terrific last night. I just wish the sun was not so bright today. A few newbies came along with their boyfriends and asked me to tell them who all these people are. I told them, "These are the super geeks, the freeks...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 21:52:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>About Silverlight</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[A couple of remarks: ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:37:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gerald Beuchelt</jf:author>
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        <title>Day One of JavaOne 2007</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[By Frank Cohen...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 01:39:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 02:58:58 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>fcohen</jf:author>
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        <title>The downside of control</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You make very good points Ilya. I see a downside to anyone trying to retain control over an open source community when that control is used to squash innovation. There is a philosophy behind the open source license that makes it difficult to stay in...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:01:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:01:04 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>fcohen</jf:author>
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        <title>A prince among partiers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The Tangosol party was terrific last night. I just wish the sun was not so bright today. A few newbies came along with their boyfriends and asked me to tell them who all these people are. I told them, "These are the super geeks, the freeks that are...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 18:53:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>fcohen</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Good opportunity, execution will determine success</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't see the JavaFX as vaporware. Sun has a track record with the cell phone network operators and this improves their offering. Midlets are nice, but the interaction of JavaFX interface is appealing. The way in which Sun presented JavaFX makes me...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 18:50:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 18:50:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>fcohen</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Day One of JavaOne</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I see Java guys huddling for an answer to WPF/e(Silverlight). Are there any works in Java community to leverage the new Engine microsoft provides for WPF ?

With WPF/e(silverlight) Microsoft did its homework and Sun seems to have hurried it (Vaporware?).]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:13:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Srikanth Remani</jf:author>
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        <title>Not the last Tangosol party ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Neelan and I have already agreed to pay out of our own pockets to keep the Tangosolarmetric party going if we have to .....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 13:24:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JavaFX was F3</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[JavaFX was formerly known as F3. Checkout cool demos in Chris Oliver's <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/chrisoliver/">weblog</a>. 
<a href="http://adij.wordpress.com/">Adi</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:52:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Adi Sesha</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaFX</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Ilya, you point is clear. I just wonder when Sun is talking on re-packaging of jre it might solve the problem of size  and limit dependencies. Are there any details on that?

Gennady]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:49:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gennady Shumakher</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: emergence of Glassfish</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It would appear that the full weight of a legit enterprise vendor is being corralled in to the initiative that is Glassfish, as WebLogic continues to lose its raison d'etre for Sun accounts, even JBoss has some uphill obstacles to being deployed on...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:44:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaFX...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>believe me:NO END USER WILL DOWNLOAD A PLUGIN OF 15MB</blockquote><br><br>Probably Java is already on user's computer when the user got the computer: I believe many or most of computers shipped with Java. Sun just needs to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:37:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaFX...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>believe me:NO END USER WILL DOWNLOAD A PLUGIN OF 15MB</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 11:04:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wei Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Day One of JavaOne</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I actually think that Sun doesn't necessarily have an advantage in this area.  I think Flex is a great programming model, combined with AS3, which allows you to use the Flex declarative model transparently with AS3 is awesome.  But besides...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 10:53:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaFX...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45311</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>the flash runtime is less than 1MB ,silverlight is 1.5MB and this small plugin download is a key requirment for wide deployment on the browser side,java JRE6 is about 15MB or more this is without the JavaFX runtime(interpreter or...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 10:37:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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